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Direckshun 12-17-2008 10:34 AM

Trade ideas.
 
I'm just going to throw some thoughts out there. Tell me which ones you think are worth looking into.

RB Larry Johnson

Worth: A pair of midrounders.
Probability: I'm willing somebody bids on him, but I doubt we'll get a 3rd.

QB Brodie Croyle

Worth: Low-rounder at best.
Probability: Very unlikely somebody wants to spend a pick on him.

TE Tony Gonzalez

Worth: 3rd.
Probability: It is very likely that someone will bite on Tony G for a 3rd.

OG Brian Waters

Worth: Leadership and Pro Bowl selection raises his worth -- somebody might drop a 3rd for him?
Probability: Only if some team out there goes all Jets this offseason. Who knows.

OT Herb Taylor

Worth: 5th.
Probability: Young guy with a lot of promise that may not fit on our OL anywhere. Some team might go for that, but 4th seems unlikely.

DE Tamba Hali

Worth: who the hell knows
Probability: Somebody would surely bid on Hali, but who the hell knows how much he's worth. His youth and past production offsets his awful year, but some team that needs a complimentary DE might drop as much as a 2nd or 3rd for him.

SS Bernard Pollard

Worth: 4th, due to youth and experience.
Probability: It's uncertain if there's a real strong demand for somebody like Pollard. Like Hali, his poor play would be offset by his youth and time on the field, but I don't think we'd get offers much higher than a midrounder, if any at all.

Where would you put these guys' value?

Thoughts.

DeezNutz 12-17-2008 10:40 AM

LJ: 4-5. one pick
Croyle: half a doughnut.
Gonzo: 3. one.
Waters: 6.
Taylor: conditional 7.
Hali: 4-5. one.
Pollard. 6-7. one.

In short, beyond Gonzo, I see very little value here.

Direckshun 12-17-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5304417)
LJ: 4-5. one pick
Croyle: half a doughnut.
Gonzo: 3. one.
Waters: 6.
Taylor: conditional 7.
Hali: 4-5. one.
Pollard. 6-7. one.

In short, beyond Gonzo, I see very little value here.

That's fair. Although I will say that teams may look at Hali and figure he's a great 2nd DE on the strongside.

That COULD BE worth something. Don't know if it's worth a 2nd, but it's worth something.

Just a thought.

Jerm 12-17-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5304394)

DE Tamba Hali

Worth: who the hell knows
Probability: Somebody would surely bid on Hali, but who the hell knows how much he's worth. His youth and past production offsets his awful year, but some team that needs a complimentary DE might drop as much as a 2nd or 3rd for him.

If only we could get that lucky. :grovel:

Ebolapox 12-17-2008 10:43 AM

most of these guys are worth more to us than any other team or the draft pick we'll get from them.

DeezNutz 12-17-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5304421)
That's fair. Although I will say that teams may look at Hali and figure he's a great 2nd DE on the strongside.

That COULD BE worth something. Don't know if it's worth a 2nd, but it's worth something.

Just a thought.

I agree that Hali is a nice rotational DE. Sucks for us that he happened to be a first rounder. He's an NFL player, though, which is more than we can say about many a draft pick we've had.

The Franchise 12-17-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5304394)
I'm just going to throw some thoughts out there. Tell me which ones you think are worth looking into.

RB Larry Johnson - He's maybe worth a conditional 4th round pick....depending on if he stays out of trouble off of the field and performs like the LJ of old.

QB Brodie Croyle - He's worth nothing. He's shown that he can't stay healthy. No one really is going to take a chance on this kid.

TE Tony Gonzalez - I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Tony is worth at least a 3rd....possibly a 2nd because of how he played this year. I would think that there are a couple of teams that would give up a 3rd and 5th/6th for him.

OG Brian Waters - He's maybe worth a 4th or a 5th. I still don't see us trading him though...especially with the holes we need to fill on the O-line.

OT Herb Taylor - 6th at the most. He's shown that he can come in and play in a situational role but we haven't given him the opportunity to show if he can play full time.

DE Tamba Hali - He's maybe worth a 4th round pick. He hasn't shown anything but flashes and he's shown that he really can't stay healthy either.

SS Bernard Pollard - 5th/6th - Only due to the fact that he's a great special teams player.


Thoughts.

Here are my thoughts.

Demonpenz 12-17-2008 10:52 AM

if we can get a couple more games like the San Diego games. It looked like he was finally healthy or that tackle sucks. Either way we need more strips

DaKCMan AP 12-17-2008 10:55 AM

It's laughable that anyone thinks a team would give any more than a conditional 7th for Tamba Hali, Bernard Pollard or Herb Taylor. Brodie Croyle has NO value. Brian Waters wouldn't get more than a 5th or 6th - AT BEST. Remember we traded a 4th (conditional 3rd) for All-Pro, future HOF, LEFT TACKLE (not a guard like Waters) Willie Roaf. Tony Gonzalez isn't going anywhere, either. We would never get near the value in picks equal to what he brings to the team.

Chiefnj2 12-17-2008 11:03 AM

Rule 1 - Don't trade players where you don't have viable backups unless you are going to get great value for them.

RB Larry Johnson

- Probably worth a 4th round pick. Do not trade. He can still run the ball. KC would probably have to burn an earlier draft pick to replace him.

QB Brodie Croyle

Worth - maybe a 7th rounder. Trade him.

TE Tony Gonzalez

Worth: 4th round. IIRC only one team was willing to give a 3rd for him this year. He's a year older. Do not trade. Cottam has not proved to be a good replacement for TG.

OG Brian Waters

The OL has enough problems. Why trade away a solid player who has another year or two. Focus on the C, RG, RT.

OT Herb Taylor

He's the only backup that seems to have potential. Why trade it for a 5th round crapshoot?

DE Tamba Hali

Sadly, he's the best DE on the team. Keep him for now at LDE.

SS Bernard Pollard

Not worth more than a 6th. Why not keep him as a backup?

RippedmyFlesh 12-17-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5304428)
most of these guys are worth more to us than any other team or the draft pick we'll get from them.

Exactly esp gonzo and waters.
I think youd really have to hit a homerun with a 3rd round pick to let waters go.

Mr. Flopnuts 12-17-2008 04:03 PM

For the 15th time Derrick, we're not trading Tony Gonzalez. At all.

MikeMaslowski 12-17-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5304429)
I agree that Hali is a nice rotational DE. Sucks for us that he happened to be a first rounder. He's an NFL player, though, which is more than we can say about many a draft pick we've had.


:doh!: sad but true

King_Chief_Fan 12-17-2008 04:09 PM

you will be laughed off the face of the earth thinking you can deal Croyle to anyone for anything

OnTheWarpath15 12-17-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5304394)
I'm just going to throw some thoughts out there. Tell me which ones you think are worth looking into.

RB Larry Johnson

Worth: No more than what Baltimore spent on McGahee. A pair of 4ths.
Probability: Conditional 4th, at best.

QB Brodie Croyle

Worth: Are you ****ing kidding?
Probability: See above

TE Tony Gonzalez

Worth: 3rd.
Probability: We're not trading him now.

OG Brian Waters

Worth: Still has a few years in the tank, probably a 3rd or 4th.
Probability: Don't see the value in getting rid of your 2nd best lineman for a mid-round pick

OT Herb Taylor

Worth: Huh?
Probability: See above.

DE Tamba Hali

Worth: Wow. Hard to say. Probably a 3rd at best.
Probability: Not going anywhere. Will see a huge jump in production with health and better coaching, IMO.

SS Bernard Pollard

Worth: Late, late rounder.
Probability: No one is going to trade for a STer.




My thoughts.


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