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Chris Meck 03-06-2009 12:04 PM

I think all the 3-4 talk is hooey.
 
I really don't think we're going to a 3-4.

I think Vrabel's position here is a passing down rush end. At this point in his career, it's a smart way to use him.

We don't have a NT. We just don't. We didn't make a play for any of the guys in FA that fit that spot.

We don't really have 3-4 ends. If we were really going to do this, I think we'd have at least looked at Olshansky.

We would basically be wasting last year's #5 overall pick. Also a waste of Hali. So we waste 50% of our last 4 first round picks to switch to a defense we have basically NO personnel for.

We're short at least 1 starting OLB for a 3-4, and really would need another player that could take a lot of snaps as Vrabel is going to need a breather at this stage of his career. Didn't even look at Dansby.

I don't buy it. What's the upside? I don't see any.

I think people are grasping at straws.

Molitoth 03-06-2009 12:08 PM

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Also a waste of Hali

Hali was a waste of a draft pick anyway.

KCrockaholic 03-06-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 5560691)
Hali was a waste of a draft pick anyway.

Why do you throw him under the bus after one bad year with a horrible defense around him? sounds awful ignorant to me

beach tribe 03-06-2009 12:11 PM

I don't think we're switching yet. The acquisition of a 34 yr old LB doesn't automatically mean we're going to a 3-4.

Skip Towne 03-06-2009 12:11 PM

As Amnorix pointed out, you don't have to make the switch in one day. It took the Pats nearly 2 years to switch and they still run some 4-3.

suds79 03-06-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 5560683)
We would basically be wasting last year's #5 overall pick. Also a waste of Hali. So we waste 50% of our last 4 first round picks to switch to a defense we have basically NO personnel for.

I think Pioli & Haley see that this was a 2-14 team last year. They're going to be afraid to run the system they believe in because of picks in the past. That's just my guess.

I think this team will still acquire or draft a NT and move Dorsey to DE. Yeah he's not ideally tall enough but his weight is right about where you want it.

We might see some 3-4 & 4-3 looks next year as it takes time but I fully expect us to go to that(3-4). Just seems like it's going to happen.

ChiefRon 03-06-2009 12:14 PM

I think it's going to be mostly 4-3, with some 3-4 mixed in at times.

The "hybrid", at least in year 1

KCrockaholic 03-06-2009 12:15 PM

we will be using a 4-3/3-4 hybrid this year I believe. Probably alot of 43 with some 34 mixed in.

KCrockaholic 03-06-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5560710)
I think it's going to be mostly 4-3, with some 3-4 mixed in at times.

The "hybrid", at least in year 1

damn, you beat me to it.

Chiefnj2 03-06-2009 12:17 PM

They haven't shown a lot of interest in free agents to improve the 4-3.

Molitoth 03-06-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5560695)
Why do you throw him under the bus after one bad year with a horrible defense around him? sounds awful ignorant to me

3 average years. The guy was a First Round draft pick and projected to be great. He has produced an average of 6 sacks and 43 tackles per season.

Yes, the defense sucks... But Tamba hasn't lived up to his hype.

CoMoChief 03-06-2009 12:18 PM

Expect to be almost the same as what was ran in AZ, somewhat of a hybrid 3-4/4-3. They IIRC also dont really have 3-4 personnel as well.

DeepSouth 03-06-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 5560691)
Hali was a waste of a draft pick anyway.

I don't think anyone knows how good or how bad any of the current defensive players on the Chiefs roster is. I think the coaching staff was at least 50% responsible for their ineptness. Look at the defensive players that shipped out and played well for other teams. Particularly, linebackers (Mitchel & Fuijita). And, if Sims was so freaking bad, why did Tampa resign him.

I'm willing to give the new coaching staff a shot at getting the best out of the young players (Hali, Tyler, McBride, Dorsey, Johnson, Page, Pollard, Flowers, Carr, & Leggett)

The Buddha 03-06-2009 12:23 PM

We're going to run a 3-3... People will run circles around us.

Blick 03-06-2009 12:23 PM

Yeah, our defense was money last year in the 4-3. Why change it?


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