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Coogs 04-08-2009 02:19 PM

Hypothetical Draft Trade Scenario with Eagles...
 
You're the Chiefs. You have 3 veteran players who have openly expressed desire to move on at one time since the new regime has taken over. TG, LJ, and BW. All three are over 30 or pushing 30 very hard. All three have something left in the tank, and 2 of those 3 want and deserve a chance to go to the Super Bowl.

Philadelphia has a pretty fair team in place. Their biggest needs are a TE, LT, RB to pair with Westbrook, and they could also use more help on the O-line.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/11519168

Chiefs have the #3 overall pick worth 2200 points. A LT could very well be on the board at that #3 pick. Lions go Stafford, and either Smith or Monroe is guaranteed to be there at #3.

Philadelphia has 12 picks in the draft whose total point value is 2199. Philly calls and offers all 12 picks for pick #3, TG, LJ, and BW. A possible conditional pick in the draft is offered next year as well. 3rd rounder if they make the playoffs, 2nd rounder if they make the NFC Championship, 1st rounder if they make the Super Bowl.

18 overall picks for the Chiefs in this draft with which to use and/or manuver for position in this draft or next years draft, with another potential draft pick next year depending on how well the Eagles do.

2 1st rounders... 21 and 28
1 2nd rounder... 53
2 3rd rounders... 67 and 85
2 4th rounders... 102 and 121
5 5th rounders... 139, 141, 153, 157, and 159
3 6th rounders... 175, 194, and 195
3 7th rounders... 212, 230, and Mr. Irrelavent


Philly is probably a serious player in the NFC with the deal. KC can do some serious building and add finishing touches in next years draft. Do you do the deal?

Fish 04-08-2009 02:22 PM

How do we pay 18 rookies at once?

Coogs 04-08-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5651628)
How do we pay 18 rookies at once?

Use some picks to manuver up in this draft, or trade them for picks in next years draft. NE has a history of stockpiling draft picks in the following draft. Always seems to keep them ahead of the game too.

KCrockaholic 04-08-2009 02:28 PM

This is getting outrageous :rolleyes:

Coogs 04-08-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5651652)
This is getting outrageous :rolleyes:

True. But I had a few minutes time to spare, and was looking at trade scenarios for LJ, TG, and BW and trade down scenarios for the Chiefs in the 1st round. They all came up Philly, so I just put them all together.

BigChiefFan 04-08-2009 02:54 PM

I wouldn't do it. If we got to keep our 3rd overall pick, then, yes, it's a strong consideration, but giving up 3 former PBers AND the top pick sounds like we get bent over. We've already got plenty of average role players, we need QUALITY added to the equation. Like it or not, everyone of those players is a STARTER on our team. We'd be giving up FOUR starters for a roll of the dice in an average draft.

Mr. Krab 04-08-2009 03:01 PM

Heh, Coogs is funny. I like it! :)

The Franchise 04-08-2009 03:12 PM

Sure......why not. Are we supposed to put our mocks up for this?

It's funny how the trades get crazier and crazier the closer we get to the draft.

Coogs 04-08-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5651731)
I wouldn't do it. If we got to keep our 3rd overall pick, then, yes, it's a strong consideration, but giving up 3 former PBers AND the top pick sounds like we get bent over. We've already got plenty of average role players, we need QUALITY added to the equation. Like it or not, everyone of those players is a STARTER on our team. We'd be giving up FOUR starters for a roll of the dice in an average draft.


Yeah, but we could fill in a lot of the gaps with these selections in what you term an average draft. And if the Eagles would parlay this into a Super Bowl appearance, that would give us two chips in next years first round, where we could very well add two marquee type players to set off the players selected this year... and last year.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-08-2009 04:10 PM

Interesting scenario, but the Eagles tend to get rid of players past thier prime....not bring in 3 of them at once.

SBK 04-08-2009 04:12 PM

There isn't a team in the league that would make that trade, or one that would turn it down if offered. LMAO

KCrockaholic 04-08-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 5651674)
True. But I had a few minutes time to spare, and was looking at trade scenarios for LJ, TG, and BW and trade down scenarios for the Chiefs in the 1st round. They all came up Philly, so I just put them all together.

Its interesting if it came up. Its just not realistic at all. I think I would do the trade if it came up though. 12 picks for LJ, TG, BW? yes sir.

Coogs 04-08-2009 06:54 PM

Wow! Check out this from a piece by Gretz this monrning over at kcchiefs.com...


Quote:

In the last nine drafts, the Patriots acquired 54 selections, while trading away 55 picks.

Belichick/Pioli made multiple deals in every draft but their first on with the Patriots in 2000. In the 2003 Draft alone, the Patriots:

Acquired: picks No. 13, 36, 41, 45, 75, 78, 117, 120, 154, 164, 201, 239, 243, DT Ted Washington and four choices in the 2004 Draft.

Dealt: picks No. 14, 19, 41, 50, 75, 78, 81, 120, 128, 140, 154, 157, 193, 225.

When the smoke cleared, the Patriots had Washington, 10 players selected in the ‘03 Draft including DT Ty Warren, CB Asante Samuel and C Dan Koppen, plus the four draft choices in ‘04. From those ‘04 picks New England got DT Vince Wilfork and picked up RB Corey Dillon in a trade.


All the evidence means this: expect some wheeling and dealing when it comes to the Chiefs and the 2009 NFL Draft. It’s the way of the league.

SAUTO 04-08-2009 06:57 PM

the three is worth more than their whole draft. why would we throw in THREE former pro bowlers?

DaKCMan AP 04-08-2009 06:58 PM

No player 'deserves' a chance to go to a Super Bowl.


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