ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Cassel - yards per pass attempt. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=215681)

Chiefnj2 10-06-2009 10:50 AM

Cassel - yards per pass attempt.
 
Per Greg Easterbrook TMQ: "Matt Cassel, who recently signed one of the richest contracts in football history, averaged 2.4 yards per pass attempt on 32 throws."

Wow, that's horrible. If a receiver were to catch a ball on the LOS and just fall down (body extended) they'd pick up 2 yards. Haley might want to work on longer pass patterns.

Tribal Warfare 10-06-2009 10:52 AM

Cassel is too dependent on the WRs to get YAC.

Demonpenz 10-06-2009 10:52 AM

yikes. did you see sanchez's YPA? and Much younger than castle

kstater 10-06-2009 10:53 AM

Cassel is way too dependent on his line holding up long enough for his receivers to run more than a couple yards. He needs to step up into the pocket and throw it longer.

BigChiefFan 10-06-2009 10:55 AM

It's been awful. I would almost suggest going long on a few plays, whether or not the reciever can get open or not, at this point doesn't matter. Throw it out of bounds, 30 yards down the field a few times. Play-action, more. Mix it up. Get the FB involved in the run game. We have to spread the field.

talastan 10-06-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6145195)
Cassel is way too dependent on his line holding up long enough for his receivers to run more than a couple yards. He needs to step up into the pocket and throw it longer.

What pocket? Rudy gets blown off the line almost every play and it is kinda hard to step up in pocket when your center is already there.

notorious 10-06-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talastan (Post 6145207)
What pocket? Rudy gets blown off the line almost every play and it is kinda hard to step up in pocket when your center is already there.

This.

I was thinking bootlegs would help this situation out. You want to take a guess at who had bootlegs as part of his offense..........our Ex-offensive coordinator.

FAX 10-06-2009 10:58 AM

Haley needs to work on Cassel's reverse speed. Then, we can use the 42 step drop to our advantage.

FAX

JD10367 10-06-2009 10:59 AM

Passing yardage is an interesting and difficult discussion.

First of all, I've never liked how the NFL does it. If Peyton Manning throws a 2-yard pass and the guy then runs for 50 yards, Manning gets credited with a 52-yard pass.

Second, as pointed out, you also have to factor in the receivers and their abilities to get YAC, as well as the play calls.

For example, in this past game, I noticed a lot of instances where the situation might be, say, 3rd-and-7, and Cassel threw a 2-yard pass and the guy got slammed to the ground, resulting in 4th-and-5 and a punt. Now, was that Haley and the coaches' fault, because that was the play call? Was it the receiver's fault, for running too short of a route? Was it Cassel's fault, for not finding the downfield option and checking down too soon to a guy who Cassel should've known was well short of the 1st-down marker? Was it the fault of the O-line or TE or other players, who didn't follow the play and provide downfield blocking?

When we watch on TV, it's hard to get a true feel for who was at fault for a particular f**kup. Another good example is how you'll see a long pass to a wide-open WR downfield, without a defensive player within 5 yards, and you automatically assume the CB blew the coverage... but sometmies, what you didn't see (or know) was that the CB was supposed to get over-the-top help from the S who blew HIS assignment.

LaChapelle 10-06-2009 10:59 AM

"Matt Cassel, who recently signed one of the richest contracts in football history..."

Damn :cuss: Hanesworth wants a raise!

Bane 10-06-2009 10:59 AM

Damn!That's ugly no matter the excuse.As hard as I have been on Cassel,I still think with LOTS of help he can be a good QB.I'm just not sure I have faith in our drafting skills.
Posted via Mobile Device

Mr. Laz 10-06-2009 11:04 AM

our passing game just sucks so it's not much of a surprise.

Offensive line sucks which makes Haley nervous so Haley goes into a shell which brings the defense up to the LOS even more, which makes the running game even worse and Cassel have even less time.

Marty had the same problem


you HAVE TO GO DEEP even if it fails ... you have to push the defense back or your offense is just gonna continue to suck.

BigChiefFan 10-06-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6145237)
our passing game just sucks so it's not much of a surprise.

Offensive line sucks which makes Haley nervous so Haley goes into a shell which brings the defense up to the LOS even more, which makes the running game even worse and Cassel have even less time.

Marty had the same problem


you HAVE TO GO DEEP even if it fails ... you have to push the defense back or your offense is just gonna continue to suck.

Agreed. We need to chuck it down the field early and open it up a little. Even if the plays go incomplete, it makes the defense have to respect the long ball.

OnTheWarpath15 10-06-2009 11:11 AM

You know what makes that number even uglier, NJ?

He had a FORTY THREE yard completion to Ryan.

But in fairness, I'm struggling to determine where Easterbrook arrived at 2.4 per attempt.

Cassel's gross passing yardage (no pun intended) was 127. Divide that by 32 attempts, and you get 3.9 per attempt.

Even if you take the sacks into the equation, you're looking at 88 net passing yards, divided by 32, or 2.75 per attempt.

Regardless, it ****ing sucks.

OnTheWarpath15 10-06-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6145257)
You know what makes that number even uglier, NJ?

He had a FORTY THREE yard completion to Ryan.

But in fairness, I'm struggling to determine where Easterbrook arrived at 2.4 per attempt.

Cassel's gross passing yardage (no pun intended) was 127. Divide that by 32 attempts, and you get 3.9 per attempt.

Even if you take the sacks into the equation, you're looking at 88 net passing yards, divided by 32, or 2.75 per attempt.

Regardless, it ****ing sucks.

Figured it out.

He's taking sack yardage and the sack itself and including it.

Cassel has 32 attempts, but was sacked 5 times for 37 "attempts."

Take the 88 net passing yards, divide by 37, and you get 2.37, rounded up to 2.4.

A bit disingenuous, but the point stands.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:53 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.