Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6240501)

I think that there a a couple of young players that have potential to develop, assuming we don't lose one to another team.

Both Daryl Harris and Colin Brown looked like they could be guys that can help this line at guard.

I thought both looked better in the preseason than the scrubs we've been trotting out there through the season thus far.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 6240475)

O-lines are usually 3 year rebuilding projects

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 6240515)

They've had money the last 4 years. They've had a bad oline for nearly that long. The last 3 years the line has been horrid but with each subsequent year the line has got worse, not better. If you go back through the history of really bad lines in the NFL you don't see many, if any, great 1 year turnarounds. Along with that how do you expect to get an oline in 1 year when:

A: Your football team won't spend any money?

B: Your head football coach won't even let them carry enough weight to be effective? (Theres a reason every left tackle in the league weighs closer to 320 than 280)

C: Your personnel dept. has given little indication they even have a clue how to identify talent at the position? (Colin Brown lolz)

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6240564)

We have only 1 first-round pick on the line currently, so we're probably looking at 4 more years until we're decent.

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 6240515)

They've had money the last 4 years. They've had a bad oline for nearly that long. The last 3 years the line has been horrid but with each subsequent year the line has got worse, not better. If you go back through the history of really bad lines in the NFL you don't see many, if any, great 1 year turnarounds. Along with that how do you expect to get an oline in 1 year when:

A: Your football team won't spend any money?

B: Your head football coach won't even let them carry enough weight to be effective? (Theres a reason every left tackle in the league weighs closer to 320 than 280)

C: Your personnel dept. has given little indication they even have a clue how to identify talent at the position? (Colin Brown lolz)

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 6240606)

Give some examples. Three years is pretty standard. In '05 Miami was as bad up front as we are now. It took them until '08 to be legit. The Jets spent two first rounders in '06 and it took them until this year to become the dominant group that they are.

Obviously if you only have a piece or 2 out of place, OR you're willing to bring in a bunch of free agents it's not much of an issue, but this O-line needs 4 new players and has a history of neglecting free agents.



He wouldn't spend anything to keep Jard Allen here. He wouldn't pick up a Center and right tackle when there were several available. Additionally, when he won't even spend enough to hit the spending minimum required by the CBA I'd that's a pretty damn good indication he doesnt' want to spend money.



Have you ever contributed anything of substance on this board? Pick anything football related that you want to debate me on and I'll be more then happy to hand you your ass.