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Ralphy Boy 02-15-2010 07:24 PM
Bradford or Clausen are there, Trading down?
 
In a thread over in the lounge, this was discussed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 6534519)
A friend of mine who is really big into the 49ers told me his team thinks Claussen reminds them of another good ND QB Montana and they could use their two firsts to get him.
To that I replied with the following:
Quote:
Our #5 = 1700 pts
our #50 = 400 pts
Total = 2100

Their #13 = 1150
Their # 16 = 1000
Total = 2150

Seems like a fair trade, but then who do we draft?
When looking at what teams, drafting below us, might be interested in either Clausen or Bradford, I came up with very little.
San Fran, Jax, Seattle, Buffalo & Cleveland.
San Fran & Seattle certainly have the ammunition.

St Louis & Washington are both in need, but drafting ahead of us, so I don't see any scenario of both QB's being there.

We won't draft a QB in the first either way.

So finally, what if one of them is there? Who is likely to want either one of them? Who do we draft if we trade down?

Direckshun 02-15-2010 07:27 PM
I bet we'll still field offers if just one of them falls, which WILL happen if Rams go Suh.

We'll actually get LESS offers if both of them fall, because the remaining teams will have a better chance of "their guy" falling.

If Clausen falls to us, we'll get a buffet of offers. If Bradford falls, well. Maybe the Bills?

Of course, I'd just draft Clausen.

Saul Good 02-15-2010 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6534735)
I bet we'll still field offers if just one of them falls, which WILL happen if Rams go Suh.

We'll actually get LESS offers if both of them fall, because the remaining teams will have a better chance of "their guy" falling.

If Clausen falls to us, we'll get a buffet of offers. If Bradford falls, well. Maybe the Bills?

Of course, I'd just draft Clausen.
Who would the Bills be bidding against?

Ralphy Boy 02-15-2010 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6534745)
Who would the Bills be bidding against?
Seattle, San Fran, Cleveland & Jax.

I would think Seattle would be the most likely player on Bradford.

DrRyan 02-15-2010 09:20 PM
If they traded down to 13 and 16 I would be happy to see any combo of McClain, Mays, Graham or D Williams. Graham and Williams might been "reaches" at those slots but I'd rather go that route than O line.
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Sfeihc 02-15-2010 09:25 PM
One scenario that could unfold;

1. STL-Suh
2 DET-McCoy
3. TB-Berry
4. WAS-Okung
5. Who wants that QB and what will they pay?

ForeverChiefs58 02-15-2010 09:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6534731)
In a thread over in the lounge, this was discussed.


To that I replied with the following:


When looking at what teams, drafting below us, might be interested in either Clausen or Bradford, I came up with very little.
San Fran, Jax, Seattle, Buffalo & Cleveland.
San Fran & Seattle certainly have the ammunition.

St Louis & Washington are both in need, but drafting ahead of us, so I don't see any scenario of both QB's being there.

We won't draft a QB in the first either way.

So finally, what if one of them is there? Who is likely to want either one of them? Who do we draft if we trade down?


A lot can change from now until April. What would be great is for a team to get infatuated with a QB, and then go all "New Orleans" and give up the farm for him. Make an offer that can't be refused

Touchdown Bowe 02-15-2010 09:45 PM
If Clausen falls to us at 5..we have to take him

Tribal Warfare 02-15-2010 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe (Post 6535178)
If Clausen falls to us at 5..we have to take him
I agree if their is dissension amongst the ranks, I'd definitely pull the trigger. The kid has what it takes, Clausen has a solid physical skill set, leadership intangibles, and is very accurate.

ForeverChiefs58 02-15-2010 10:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6535344)
I agree if their is dissension amongst the ranks, I'd definitely pull the trigger. The kid has what it takes, Clausen has a solid physical skill set, leadership intangibles, and is very accurate.
Causen in the first, wr Golden Tate in the second, and OL Sam Young in the 5th.

Saccopoo 02-15-2010 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe (Post 6535178)
If Clausen falls to us at 5..we have to take him
Yeah, because everyone is predicting him to be a slam dunk in the top four, and there will be massive amounts of teams wanting to trade up and draft him. Everyone loves an egotistical QB that achieved mediocrity in college.

Jimmy Clausen is Jay Cutler without the arm. You just keep on wanting to draft that. He'll really be good behind our kick ass offensive line too.

BryanBusby 02-16-2010 12:24 AM
I'd say if Clausen and Bradford are on the board at 5, I'm not liking the chances of the Chiefs being able to move down. The Rams are starved for a QB that doesn't completely blow and it'd say a lot if they took a pass on taking one since they get top choice on any QB they desire.

Tribal Warfare 02-16-2010 01:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6535588)
Jimmy Clausen is Jay Cutler without the arm. You just keep on wanting to draft that. He'll really be good behind our kick ass offensive line too.
Clausen is more cerebral than Cutler and won't make as many mistakes with football than Jay. IMO, Clausen will be a better version of Trent Green. In other words he'll run the system that he's been coached to play to at a very level.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 02:15 AM
Notredameification?

The Franchise 02-16-2010 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6535588)
Yeah, because everyone is predicting him to be a slam dunk in the top four, and there will be massive amounts of teams wanting to trade up and draft him. Everyone loves an egotistical QB that achieved mediocrity in college.

Jimmy Clausen is Jay Cutler without the arm. You just keep on wanting to draft that. He'll really be good behind our kick ass offensive line too.
Let me guess.....you've watched 2 Notre Dame games......on YouTube.

Shut the **** up about players you know nothing about.


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