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googlegoogle 03-01-2010 04:13 PM

Pioli already knows who he's going to draft.
 
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=5669684

Mecca 03-01-2010 04:17 PM

Those guys who think the combine doesn't matter at all are reeruned. It matters to DB's more than anything but it's also how guys with equal grades separate.

KCrockaholic 03-01-2010 04:18 PM

:spock::nosmilie:

BigCatDaddy 03-01-2010 04:18 PM

He probably has as an idea. The Sr. Bowl and game film are way more important then the combine.

Mecca 03-01-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6567979)
He probably has as an idea. The Sr. Bowl and game film are way more important then the combine.

Yea the senior bowl is how Ryan Sims turned into a top 10 pick, I really wish people wouldn't jizz about the performances down there.

BigCatDaddy 03-01-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6567980)
Yea the senior bowl is how Ryan Sims turned into a top 10 pick, I really wish people wouldn't jizz about the performances down there.


But you do agree it's more important then the combine right?

Mecca 03-01-2010 04:20 PM

Depends on the position, for DB's the combine is extremely important.

warrior 03-01-2010 04:21 PM

:eek:

BigCatDaddy 03-01-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6567987)
Depends on the position, for DB's the combine is extremely important.

But overall it's more important to see elite collge players line up again elite college players in pads.

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6567979)
He probably has as an idea. The Sr. Bowl and game film are way more important then the combine.

No, they're not.

They're all factors in the decision but the Combines help to level the playing field due to the differences in talent across the country.

Also, the personal interviews reveal far more about an individual's character and motivation than game film. Do you seriously think it's wise to invest millions (if not tens of millions) without spending time to do complete an in-depth interview with these players?

It's extremely important to gauge their strength and speed, which is something that can't be garnered by game film.

Mecca 03-01-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6567991)
But overall it's more important to see elite collge players line up again elite college players in pads.

There are a lot of marginal speed WR's that make it in the NFL, there aren't any marginal speed CB's.

A CB running a crap time is a good way to not get drafted.

BigCatDaddy 03-01-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6567994)
There are a lot of marginal speed WR's that make it in the NFL, there aren't any marginal speed CB's.

A CB running a crap time is a good way to not get drafted.

Really? What is marginal speed for a DB IMO? But you still never answered my question to you.

BigCatDaddy 03-01-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6567992)
No, they're not.

They're all factors in the decision but the Combines help to level the playing field due to the differences in talent across the country.

Also, the personal interviews reveal far more about an individual's character and motivation than game film. Do you seriously think it's wise to invest millions (if not tens of millions) without spending time to do complete an in-depth interview with these players?

It's extremely important to gauge their strength and speed, which is something that can't be garnered by game film.

You win. How guys played football is less important then running in shorts. I'm from Mars and Draftubators are from Venus. I give up.

Mecca 03-01-2010 04:28 PM

Considering if anyone is a very highly thought of prospect they don't go to the senior bowl I think it's overblown. You get guys like Brandon Graham down there going against an OT that's a 5th round prospect so it makes them look like gods.

If a CB times outside of a low 4.5 he's going to fall, the fact that Flowers couldn't get under 4.5 turned him from a top 20 pick into a 2nd rounder. If he had been running 4.6's he was looking at even more rounds.

That is a position where workouts can make or break you.

dirk digler 03-01-2010 04:30 PM

I think game film and having the scouts attend the games in person are alot more important than the combine or the All-Star games. I would rank the combine #2 mostly because of the interview process.


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