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Dartgod 04-10-2010 02:58 PM

Siding: Steel, Vinyl, Aluminum?
 
Thinking of putting on some siding rather than painting and I know nothing about it. What kind is best? Any siding contractors in KC that you would recommend? Enlighten me!

Bugeater 04-10-2010 03:05 PM

I think steel is a thing of the past, and even aluminum is pretty rare anymore. They all have their drawbacks, steel will rust, aluminum will dent and vinyl will break, and they ALL will eventually oxidize and discolor. And if it gets damaged it cannot be repaired, and if you need to replace sections of it, it will be impossible to match the existing stuff once it's a few years old. If it was me I'd keep the wood, but I paint for a living so painting isn't that big of deal. My second choice would be aluminum because you can at least paint it 15-20 years down the road when it starts looking like crap. I would never own a house with vinyl on it.

jiveturkey 04-10-2010 03:09 PM

Concrete!

http://www.jameshardie.com/homeowner...nkLapSiding.py

Bugeater 04-10-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 6664765)

That still has to be painted.

Dinny Bossa Nova 04-10-2010 03:13 PM

Great thread!

Been wondering about this myself. Except for the KC contractor part. You mean there is more than just Phobs?

Dinny

LaChapelle 04-10-2010 03:24 PM

The just fade or mildew(nasty) in our trailer park

Bugeater 04-10-2010 03:25 PM

Oh, and one other thing to keep in mind, unless you're going to spend the money to wrap your windows, soffits, and fascia and replace your gutters, you're still going to have painting to do.

DeezNutz 04-10-2010 03:27 PM

Paint.

Siding es no bueno.

BigMeatballDave 04-10-2010 05:40 PM

Get the spray-on stuff.
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BigMeatballDave 04-10-2010 05:48 PM

Isn't this fiber cement?
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Phobia 04-10-2010 06:16 PM

Fiber cement holds paint 3x longer than wood. It's also a 50 year product. That's what I'll be using when my wood siding rots off my house.

redsurfer11 04-10-2010 06:31 PM

www.jameshardie.com

This has been the rage in the siding industry the last 10 years.

Kerberos 04-10-2010 07:01 PM

The house I just sold in KS was 75% Native Stone and the addition was vinyl sided. (other 25%) Thermal aluminum windows and wraping around windows and eve's and aluminum gutters and downspouts. Solid steel front door. Shed was vinyl sided with steel door as well. VERY low maintenance. Just the way I liked it. :)

cdcox 04-10-2010 07:22 PM

We vinyl sided a few years back. Our original wood siding was installed improperly and was rotting off the house. The whole house was an eyesore. Now it looks great. We aluminum wrapped the windows and all. I don't regret it at all.

I shopped quite a bit to find a good contractor. Champion is waaaay over priced. Ask for addresses of previous jobs and look how flat the walls look. I would want to see at least 3 or 4 reference houses. I finally found a contractor where all of the reference jobs looked great. The guys that actually did the work were easily in their 60s. They weren't fast but they did a great job.

Fish 04-10-2010 07:54 PM

I used to hang siding in my younger years. Mostly vinyl, but I did everything. Did entire houses. Siding, soffit, facia, and guttering.

Each has their benefits. Each has their drawbacks.

If you're worried about cost, go with good vinyl.

If you want the best and have money to spend on it, go fiber cement.

Vinyl is the easiest to own. Usually the cheapest. Easier to install. You can replace sections if you damage anything. You don't have to take all the siding off to get to the damaged piece, you can pop one piece off, replace it, and put the new one on. You get what you pay for though. If you go vinyl, I would highly recommend getting the better quality stuff. Cheap vinyl isn't worth it at all. Builder grade cheap vinyl gives vinyl siding a very bad name. But the higher quality stuff is 100X better. If you go vinyl, get the good stuff or you'll be sorry. Vinyl is actually pretty durable outside of really cold weather. It's pretty brittle when cold, but in warm weather it's very very tough.

Fiber cement is expensive. And it's a real hassle to install, so you usually pay more in labor. Usually takes 2 guys to handle it. But it's very durable and lasts forever. You can get it ready to paint, or have it prefinished. Prefinished is the way to go unless you actually want to paint it yourself and save a ton of money. If you paint it yourself, you'll have to reapply it down the road. It's not easy to replace if you damage a section though. Fiber cement isn't usually a very good insulator, unless it's the think expensive stuff. Be sure they put down the insulation layer underneath.

I got all mine from Certainteed. They offer both vinyl and fiber cement.

http://www.certainteed.com/products/siding

I don't think I'd recommend steel or aluminum.

Either way, ensure that the installer does a good job with the insulation underneath the siding. That's a key step that makes a world of difference. Don't let them get lazy with the insulation underneath, because they often do. That step is easily overlooked if you're not watching them closely, and poor insulation underneath can create a whole host of problems.

There are a lot of shitty siding outfits out there. I don't know much about the ones around KC, as I hung siding mostly in KS and NB.... But watch them close, I've seen a lot of folks get screwed over by shoddy installers.


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