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'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 10:47 AM

****MOTHER**** YOU, JOHN MOZELIAK!!!****
 
Trading Ryan Ludwick for Jake Westbrook (who is owed 15+ million through 2011)

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Ebolapox 07-31-2010 10:51 AM

ROFL

RJ 07-31-2010 10:55 AM

Jon Jay is the answer.

What was the question?

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6908970)
Jon Jay is the answer.

What was the question?

The question is "what isn't a suitable reason to trade Ryan Ludwick for a blah pitcher?"

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 11:06 AM

“Great deal for SD. Kluber is a fringe No. 5 SP, Greenwood a non-prospect.”

RJ 07-31-2010 11:47 AM

I'm not understanding this trade. The Padres get Ludwick for a couple of kinda sorta prospects? Are they kicking in some cash to the Cardinals?

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6909031)
I'm not understanding this trade. The Padres get Ludwick for a couple of kinda sorta prospects? Are they kicking in some cash to the Cardinals?

It surpasses the definition of a horrible trade.

Not only do you make your own team worse for this year, but you get less value for a commodity than you should have, and in the process you make a rival team in your league much, much stronger.

There is no long term benefit to this trade via prospects, and no cash savings, either.

It's a flat out ****ing panic trade by a stupid ****ing one who sucks the penis who has absolutely no idea what he's doing and should not be in his current position.

DeWitt should have fired Luhnow during the power struggle in '07 and kept Jocketty.

This is a Mongolian Cluster****.

Buck 07-31-2010 01:37 PM

From everything I heard, the Padres just raped the 'juns and got a solid player out of it. 2 questions. How many years left on Ludwick's contract? Also, I know he had an all star year in 2008 but declined since then. Any way he makes it back to all star form?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6909164)
From everything I heard, the Padres just raped the 'juns and got a solid player out of it. 2 questions. How many years left on Ludwick's contract? Also, I know he had an all star year in 2008 but declined since then. Any way he makes it back to all star form?
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He's not going to hit 37 homers again, but he'll be able to hit 25 consistently, and give you Gold Glove defense.

He's arb eligible after this year, and will be due a huge pay increase. In all likeliehood, you aren't getting him for more than a year, but even then, he'll qualify as a Type A Free Agent, and you'll get a first rounder and a sandwich pick out of him.

So look at it this way:

At the very worst, you traded one possible #5 starter and a guy who will never EVER make it past AA for 1 year and two months of Ryan Ludwick, his salary, and two top 50 draft picks.

You can't win a trade more than you just won one.

DeezNutz 07-31-2010 01:48 PM

Sorry about the bad luck, Cards fans. We happen to have a youngish GM who might be of interest to you.

Love,
Royals Fans.

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 01:54 PM

Well look at this way you have Dave F'N Duncan to help him out

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 02:04 PM

I don't give a damn if you have Duncan to help him out. The guy is worth next to nothing. Ludwick is a top 5 RF. It's such an astoundingly awful trade I can't even get my head around it.

SnakeXJones 07-31-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6909190)
I don't give a damn if you have Duncan to help him out. The guy is worth next to nothing. Ludwick is a top 5 RF. It's such an astoundingly awful trade I can't even get my head around it.

When did u hire allard baird as ur gm?

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeXJones (Post 6909196)
When did u hire allard baird as ur gm?

After Jocketty was fired at the end of the 2007 season.

LiL stumppy 07-31-2010 02:38 PM

It's not a horrible trade.. Ludwick was due arbritation at the end of the year, and was gonna cost them around 8 million next year.. Jon Jay has been a beast,and is young and CHEAP, which will help get Albert signed. And the Indians sent the Cards cash as well.

Westbrook is WAY better than Suppan or Hawksworth, so we made our rotation a little better, saved 8 million, and it gives us more room to sign Albert..


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