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Hog's Gone Fishin 01-07-2011 07:35 AM

We will beat the Ravens...Here's why
 
Joe Flacco the last 3 games has averaged 133 yards per game.

172 /Texans

102 / Brown

125 / Bengals

Those teams suck !

We stop Ray Rice and they are thru. Our young fast secondary will take advantage of an inept Flacco.

We put up 17 points. We win by 10.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7327962)
Joe Flacco the last 3 games has averaged 133 yards per game.

172 /Texans

102 / Brown

125 / Bengals

Those teams suck !

We stop Ray Rice and they are thru. Our young fast secondary will take advantage of an inept Flacco.

We put up 17 points. We win by 10.

Like your optimism...but it's the "...stop Ray Rice" part I am a bit concerned about.

Warrior5 01-07-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7327971)
Like your optimism...but it's the "...stop Ray Rice" part I am a bit concerned about.

Me too, but KC stopped CJ and good things happened.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5 (Post 7327993)
Me too, but KC stopped CJ and good things happened.

Knowshon....Michael Bush...career days.

Reerun_KC 01-07-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7327996)
Knowshon....Michael Bush...career days.

Is always easier to cherry pick stats to be negative... But how many Career days have the Ravens given up this year?

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 7327782)
Offensively, they don't scare me at all. We match up very well in that regard. Bolden is still Bolden so you have to respect that but Mason and Hoosyourmama are washed up. Heap is a shell of his former self. Stallworth, they rarely pass to. Their Oline is BAD and Oher is banged up. Flacco is grossly overrated and REALLY stinks in the playoffs. I don't know why people are worried about Ray Rice. We have done much better against Ray Rice type backs than we have against big backs.

Defensively, they are overrated. They can't rush the passer. Their "vaunted run defense" is overrated. If you look at their games, they aren't really stopping the teams #1 back. They are doing a great job against backups. (IE, Charles will get his yards and Thomas will get 2.2 YPC). If you look at the list below, not only aren't the stopping teams #1 RB's but they haven't faced a back of the caliber of Charles except Adrian Foster, who averaged 5.0 YPC.

Thomlinson -- 5.6 YPC
Cedric Benson -- 3.4 YPC (about his average)
Peyton Hillis -- 6.5 YPC
Mendenhall -- 3.2 (average is 3.9 over the season, but this was with Charlie Batch in at QB)
Moroney -- 4.5 (6 carries, denver hardly ran it)
Woodhead -- 5.7 (never heard of him, 11/63 for NE)
Fred Jackson -- 3.2 (who?)
Ronnie Brown -- 6.6
Michael Turner 2.3 (first good RB that they've stopped. 9 games into the season. Granted, anyone that watches football knows that he's lost a step)
M. Goodson -- 5.5 YPC (20/120..who?)
Blount -- 4.2 YPC
Mendenhall -- 2.4 YPC (rematch wasn't good. Big Ben was in, so no excuse. Still a 3.9 YPC back though)
Adrian Foster -- 5.0 YPC
Pierre Thomas 3.3 YPC (Year average is 3.2)
Peyton Hillis -- 2.9 YPC (McCoy was in, terrible offensive day overall by the Browns)
Benson --2.5 YPC (It's the Bengals)

The more and more that I look at the Ravens, the more I think we have a better than 50/50 chance to win.


KC_Lee 01-07-2011 08:17 AM

We can win if the Ravens D does not take JC out. Look at the 2008 playoff game with the Titans. CJ was running all over the field until Raw Lewis bent him backwards and took him out the game, after that the game was over.

The Ravens are big and strong but not fast and strong, which plays into the Chief's favor with JC.

Mile High Mania 01-07-2011 08:18 AM

Should be a good game... won't be easy for either team. KC is still a tough place for visiting teams, will be crazy this weekend I'm sure.

But, don't discount the Ravens so easily... the Chiefs have their fair share of warts as well. They have a good team and a lot of playoff experience in recent years.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7328000)
Is always easier to cherry pick stats to be negative... But how many Career days have the Ravens given up this year?

OK....then let me reword my point.

Chiefs gave up 137 yards to a second string RB at home in their last game. I hope they solved whatever problems they had.

blaise 01-07-2011 08:26 AM

I think there's a game against the Saints that was between the Texans and Browns. I agree that the Chiefs can beat the Ravens, but there's something else about all those games you listed- the Ravens won them.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7328021)
I think there's a game against the Saints that was between the Texans and Browns. I agree that the Chiefs can beat the Ravens, but there's something else about all those games you listed- the Ravens won them.

Good point.

Mile High Mania 01-07-2011 08:37 AM

Ravens lost 4 games ... Bengals (week 2), then the Patriots, Falcons and Steelers. The last three are all in the playoffs with 14, 13 and 12 wins respectively. The Ravens also beat the Jets, Steelers, Bucs and Saints - all solid records.

Chiefs lost 6 games ... Colts, Texans, Raiders X2, Broncos and Chargers. The Chiefs beat one team that made the playoffs... the Seahawks.

Gimme Ravens by 10. :thumb:

Red Dawg 01-07-2011 08:43 AM

Scoring will be really tough for us. Bowe could be shut down by them. Charles will not be running throgh big holes either. We need secondary players and be very physical up front. I fear we are don't have either.

blaise 01-07-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 7328040)
Ravens lost 4 games ... Bengals (week 2), then the Patriots, Falcons and Steelers. The last three are all in the playoffs with 14, 13 and 12 wins respectively. The Ravens also beat the Jets, Steelers, Bucs and Saints - all solid records.

Chiefs lost 6 games ... Colts, Texans, Raiders X2, Broncos and Chargers. The Chiefs beat one team that made the playoffs... the Seahawks.

Gimme Ravens by 10. :thumb:

What's the line on this weekend's Bronco game?

KCUnited 01-07-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 7328047)
What's the line on this weekend's Bronco game?

Potential DUI's -3

Reerun_KC 01-07-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7328020)
OK....then let me reword my point.

Chiefs gave up 137 yards to a second string RB at home in their last game. I hope they solved whatever problems they had.

So have the Ravens... M. Goodson -- 5.5 YPC (20/120..who?)


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