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Rain Man 07-05-2011 06:14 PM

Gladiator Round 1, Match 18: sofa king vs. pr_capone
 
sofa king

M-16 military rifle with 20 rounds

No backup weapon

Time to plan: 55 seconds


pr_capone

M-1 Garand semiautomatic rifle with bayonet (8 bullets)

Backup bowie knife

Time to plan: 115 seconds



Venue:

Waist deep in the Amazon river

Starting distance: 834 feet

Groves 07-05-2011 06:22 PM

I vote for the "fish with teeth".

Old Dog 07-05-2011 06:23 PM

Not knowing which is actually a better marksman I shall abstain until we hear from the competitors but if going strictly off of the weapon and environmental factors I would give the edge to Sofa King.
PR has the backup weapons, but only 8 rounds and the M-1 is roughly 2 pounds heavier (10 1/2 to 8 1/2 or so). Not a huge issue, but waist deep in the river it may be.

Rain Man 07-05-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7731433)
Not knowing which is actually a better marksman I shall abstain until we hear from the competitors but if going strictly off of the weapon and environmental factors I would give the edge to Sofa King.
PR has the backup weapons, but only 8 rounds and the M-1 is roughly 2 pounds heavier (10 1/2 to 8 1/2 or so. Not a huge issue, but waist deep in the river it may be.

I wonder which weapon does better in water? If you jam up wading around in there, you're a dead man.

Old Dog 07-05-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7731435)
I wonder which weapon does better in water? If you jam up wading around in there, you're a dead man.

Neither one would have a big issue assuming both had been properly maintained prior to the fight and further assuming it didn't go on for an extremely prolonged period of time (I see no reason it should if either of them can shoot).

It really would boil down to their abilities. The effective range on both are comparable.

mlyonsd 07-05-2011 06:35 PM

Comes down to who is the best shot. In this case I go with the couch guy only because he has more rounds.

Rain Man 07-05-2011 06:50 PM

Yeah, I'm going to have to go with the more modern weapon with a bigger magazine. I looked them up and they both are well within their range at 834 feet, but since the M-16 has a longer effective range I'm going to assume that it can be fired with greater accuracy by your average planeteer.

pr_capone 07-05-2011 06:54 PM

In the Army, I qualified as sharpshooter.

Just sayin.

Hammock Parties 07-05-2011 06:56 PM

pr capone has military training and an extra weapon. I'm willing to bet sofa king wastes his bullets.

Old Dog 07-05-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 7731482)
In the Army, I qualified as sharpshooter.

Just sayin.

so you got between 24-35 of 40. Keeping in mind that only four of those 40 targets are 300 yards, I assume you missed at least 3 of those 4. The range given here is near that 300 yard mark......

decisions, decisions

Old Dog 07-05-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7731489)
pr capone has military training and an extra weapon. I'm willing to bet sofa king wastes his bullets.

He's 30ish.....I highly doubt he had training with the M1. If he had the M-16 (which he likely shot, A2 I'm guessing) I would see a clear winner. As it is, I must hear from Sofa King with his 12 extra bullets and the gun that's easier to handle.

pr_capone 07-05-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7731499)
so you got between 24-35 of 40. Keeping in mind that only four of those 40 targets are 300 yards, I assume you missed at least 3 of those 4. The range given here is near that 300 yard mark......

decisions, decisions

Marksman 23-29
Sharpshooter 30-35
Expert 36-40

I scored 34.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7731506)
He's 30ish.....I highly doubt he had training with the M1. If he had the M-16 (which he likely shot, A2 I'm guessing) I would see a clear winner. As it is, I must hear from Sofa King with his 12 extra bullets and the gun that's easier to handle.

You are correct, my training primarily consisted of the M-16 and M9. I do have some experience with an M1 though honestly I've only fired about 50 rounds.

Other things to take into consideration. If we are in the Amazon, I am likely better trained at camouflaging myself as well as finding appropriate cover and concealment. With the added time bonus, I could situate myself and simply camp his ass. If we both run out of ammunition, I have the advantage as I can remove the bayonet and dual wield it along with the Bowie.

Old Dog 07-05-2011 07:13 PM

don't know why I was thinking 24.....

My vote goes to pr_capone

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-05-2011 07:29 PM

Advantage: Military Marksman Training.


pr_capone FTW.

threebag 07-05-2011 07:33 PM

Sofa King watched Platoon. Advantage Sofa King


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