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Direckshun 02-01-2014 03:17 PM

My shortlist at #23.
 
This is extremely premature, but O and I were talking about it in another thread, so.

(a.) Assuming the following players are off the board:

QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
QB Blake Bortles, UCF
QB Johnny Manziel. Texas A&M
QB Derek Carr, Fresno State
WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson
WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina
OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
OT Greg Robinson, Auburn
DT/DE Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
DE Kony Ealy, Missouri
OLB Khalil Mack,Buffalo
OLB Anthony Barr,UCLA
CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
S HaHa Clinton-Dix, Alabama

(b.) And assuming no game-changing FAs are added.

Here's a comprehensive list right now of who I'd take at 23, in order, as of now:

1. WR Marquise Lee, USC -- elite speed receiving potential
2. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech -- peerless route-runner at the TE position
3. WR Odell Beckham, Jr., LSU -- fantastic playmaker, great YAC guy
4. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington -- project w/ huge size to be elite in future seasons
5. DE Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame -- project with elite athleticism at 3-4 DE position
6. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama -- ideal size/athleticism to fortify OT position
7. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State -- less of a need, but great in man coverage
8. NT Louis Nix, Notre Dame -- if Poe to DE is a serious option, and Nix lasts, this is worth considering
9. S Calvin Pryor, Louisville -- will need work in coverage, but great at eating up space
10. CB Jason Verrett, TCU -- the next Brandon Flowers
11. WR Allen Robinson, Penn State -- potential to be a really good #2 at the next level
12. OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford -- great passrusher, less than ideal athleticism

FRCDFED 02-01-2014 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10406140)
This is extremely premature, but O and I were talking about it in another thread, so.

(a.) Assuming the following players are off the board:

QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville
QB Blake Bortles, UCF
QB Johnny Manziel. Texas A&M
QB Derek Carr, Fresno State
WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson
WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M
TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina
OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M
OT Greg Robinson, Auburn
DT/DE Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota
DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina
DE Kony Ealy, Missouri
OLB Khalil Mack,Buffalo
OLB Anthony Barr,UCLA
CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State
S HaHa Clinton-Dix, Alabama

(b.) And assuming no game-changing FAs are added.

Here's a comprehensive list right now of who I'd take at 23, in order, as of now:

1. WR Marquise Lee, USC -- elite speed receiving potential
2. TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech -- peerless route-runner at the TE position
3. WR Odell Beckham, Jr., LSU -- fantastic playmaker, great YAC guy
4. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington -- project w/ huge size to be elite in future seasons
5. DE Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame -- project with elite athleticism at 3-4 DE position
6. OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama -- ideal size/athleticism to fortify OT position
7. CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State -- less of a need, but great in man coverage
8. NT Louis Nix, Notre Dame -- if Poe to DE is a serious option, and Nix lasts, this is worth considering
9. S Calvin Pryor, Louisville -- will need work in coverage, but great at eating up space
10. CB Jason Verrett, TCU -- the next Brandon Flowers
11. WR Allen Robinson, Penn State -- potential to be a really good #2 at the next level
12. OLB Trent Murphy, Stanford -- great passrusher, less than ideal athleticism

Nice list! i would switch Lee and Beckham though.

TambaBerry 02-01-2014 09:17 PM

Pryor, Dennard, or Gilbert if anyone of them are there we need to pull the trigger. I don't want HaHa

FRCDFED 02-01-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10406843)
Pryor, Dennard, or Gilbert if anyone of them are there we need to pull the trigger. I don't want HaHa

I've seen mocks where Pryor lasts into the 3rd. Is that possible?

TambaBerry 02-01-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 10406852)
I've seen mocks where Pryor lasts into the 3rd. Is that possible?

I really doubt it, go watch some video he really impresses me.

Direckshun 02-01-2014 09:24 PM

I doubt it.

Heavy need for safeties in the NFL right now, and Pryor's arguably the best in this draft.

FRCDFED 02-01-2014 09:35 PM

There are so many solid players in this years draft that most mocks are all over the place. I sure hope we don't reach at 23 and really take a difference maker on either side of the ball. My preference is Ebron. I sure hope that Dorsey really does his homework on player evaluation this year. Our window with the core players currently on the team is starting to close. We need those one or two difference makers that can put this team over the top!

Direckshun 02-01-2014 09:38 PM

I think Ebron would be a dream.

I think Amaro has a better chance of lasting to our pick, however.

jkw87 02-01-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 10406874)
There are so many solid players in this years draft that most mocks are all over the place. I sure hope we don't reach at 23 and really take a difference maker on either side of the ball. My preference is Ebron. I sure hope that Dorsey really does his homework on player evaluation this year. Our window with the core players currently on the team is starting to close. We need those one or two difference makers that can put this team over the top!

I think we have plenty of young, proven talent on this team. Yeah, some are getting long in the tooth... But I think we're set better than most. (Pittsburgh comes to mind)

spanky 52 02-02-2014 07:28 AM

Beckham or Amaro. We need playmakers now, not those who are projects or have potential.

milkman 02-02-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52 (Post 10407178)
Beckham or Amaro. We need playmakers now, not those who are projects or have potential.

We sure as hell don't need a saftety that needs work in coverage.

O.city 02-02-2014 11:19 AM

I really really want hageman to drop to 23

Saccopoo 02-02-2014 11:24 AM

Good list Direckshun, but I'd rather have Odell Beckham versus Marquis Lee. I think Texas' Mike Davis is as good as Lee, both are exactly the same size and Davis is potentially there with our third round pick.

Quite frankly, Lee struggled a bit this past season with drops and production without the presence of Robert Woods, and his yards from scrimmage has dropped significantly each year since his freshman year. I don't think he's a "bell cow" type of receiver and he was able to take advantage of mismatches in coverage at the college level due to the presence of Woods and a pretty good QB in Barkley. He won't be afforded that luxury at the next level. He's getting first round consideration based on his sophomore year, not this past season, where he only had 791 yards and four TDs in 11 games.

O.city 02-02-2014 12:08 PM

He also battled injury all year and inconsistent qb play

O.city 02-02-2014 12:16 PM

With that list available, I'd probably go with lee or beckham


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