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DenverChief 02-09-2014 04:48 AM

Do you use it?
 
I'm curious how many CP members use radar detecting or lidar defeating technology. I know 2 "states" (DC and Virginia) prohibit the use of detectors, about a dozen states prohibit lidar jamming and the feds prohibit all radar jamming.

So let's hear it CP what kind of setup do you use? Any good stories just missing a ticket? Poll forthcoming.

T-post Tom 02-09-2014 04:57 AM

A friend of mine and some of his fellow Navy buddies got sick of the speed traps the local cops ran just outside the base. Not sure how it works, but they started blasting their ship's radar during the speed traps & fried the cops' radar. Worked for awhile until the cops figured it out and complained to the Navy. That ended it, but they sure enjoyed the shit out of their payback while it lasted. I want one of those...

btw, you forgot the Gaz option.:)

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 10421885)
A friend of mine and some of his fellow Navy buddies got sick of the speed traps the local cops ran just outside the base. Not sure how it works, but they started blasting their ship's radar during the speed traps & fried the cops' radar. Worked for awhile until the cops figured it out and complained to the Navy. That ended it, but they sure enjoyed the shit out of their payback while it lasted. I want one of those...

btw, you forgot the Gaz option.:)

LMAO. That would effectively jam a radar - sending a much more powerful signal back at the source. Yeah I did :(

crazycoffey 02-09-2014 05:12 AM

I have a detector for driving long trips. I also speed up after cresting a hill and seeing the length or the highway to the next hill, center clear -right shoulder clear- speed up watching oncoming for a patrol car. Let off the gas and coast to the next crest. Repeat. Knowing how radar works and drive to my advantage. On one hand it's speeding on the other hand I'm a very alert driver. I also take my medicine if I get stopped.

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10421888)
I also take my medicine if I get stopped.

yup - doesn't happen often but I do find it interesting how there is a difference in attitude between traffic cops for large depts and the smaller departments who just happen to be running traffic. I think the "traffic cops" would write their mother a ticket

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10421888)
I have a detector for driving long trips. I also speed up after cresting a hill and seeing the length or the highway to the next hill, center clear -right shoulder clear- speed up watching oncoming for a patrol car. Let off the gas and coast to the next crest. Repeat. Knowing how radar works and drive to my advantage. On one hand it's speeding on the other hand I'm a very alert driver. I also take my medicine if I get stopped.

Sounds a lot like driving on I-70 lol

crazycoffey 02-09-2014 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10421892)
Sounds a lot like driving on I-70 lol

Well, I do have many hours on I-70

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10421893)
Well, I do have many hours on I-70

:LOL: yeah I can imagine

What Brand/Model do you use for your FCC guaranteed right to "hear" those radio freqs

crazycoffey 02-09-2014 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10421890)
yup - doesn't happen often but I do find it interesting how there is a difference in attitude between traffic cops for large depts and the smaller departments who just happen to be running traffic. I think the "traffic cops" would write their mother a ticket

Oh, and actually I'm referring to a specific stop in Kansas several yeas ago. Driving from Dallas to KC to see a girl.... Small county sheriff deputy is a bit behind me with his lights on, so I stop. I'm still in partial uniform and say I just saw him, and agreed I was in a hurry.

He said he thought I was running from him so he gave me a ticket. I just said thank you, but remember thinking I was already a half county ahead of him, if I was running from him, then why did I stop?

crazycoffey 02-09-2014 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10421894)
:LOL: yeah I can imagine

What Brand/Model do you use for your FCC guaranteed right to "hear" those radio freqs

I just have an old radar detector, it works about 10% of the time and half of those times I already slowed down because of the terrain

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10421895)
Oh, and actually I'm referring to a specific stop in Kansas several yeas ago. Driving from Dallas to KC to see a girl.... Small county sheriff deputy is a bit behind me with his lights on, so I stop. I'm still in partial uniform and say I just saw him, and agreed I was in a hurry.

He said he thought I was running from him so he gave me a ticket. I just said thank you, but remember thinking I was already a half county ahead of him, if I was running from him, then why did I stop?

Riiiiight?

Yeah I got nailed by a Denver traffic cop a while back - 31-20
I didn't see the change becauseI was too busy focusing on the dark colored vehicle with the door slightly ajar parked on the side of the road - it was him with a LIDAR when I finally figured it out waaay too late

Wasn't in uniform - just gimmie my ticket - but damn you would've thought I had just ran over a dozen kindergartners with his attitude

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10421896)
I just have an old radar detector, it works about 10% of the time and half of those times I already slowed down because of the terrain

I used to own a Cobra something or other but chucked it in the garbage because EVERYTHING set it off and it became quite the annoyance

CrazyPhuD 02-09-2014 05:46 AM

Could I yes? Do I? No...it's not simply worth the effort. Could I build a system to overload both radar and laser? Yes I have the technical knowledge to do so. The simple reality is that you don't gain as much by doing so as you might think.

There are other ways to detect a car outside of radar, laser that are legally permissible. One is pacing. Don't pay attention and have a cop follow behind you and all the jamming in the world won't save you. Two is aerial observation. They can have a plan fly above you to pace you. All the tech in the world won't stop that. Finally the cop can visually estimate your speed. That is legally permissible in most jurisdictions and your active countermeasures won't do shit against it.

Detectors can have some value, but are best against radar and not so hot against laser.

Understand outside of school zones I always speed, I laugh hat how much people are pussies who refuse to pass a cop on the highway. If the cop isn't flashing his lights to slow traffic for some issue I have no problem going 5-7MPH over the speed limit to pass them. Could they pull me over? Sure but it's not generally worth their effort.

That's part of the key to avoid being the big target(and don't act guilty). Heh make the cop want to pull over someone else more. But one other key piece of advice, don't be a dick. You probably can't talk yourself out of a ticket...but you sure as hell can talk yourself into one!

DenverChief 02-09-2014 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 10421902)
Could I yes? Do I? No...it's not simply worth the effort. Could I build a system to overload both radar and laser? Yes I have the technical knowledge to do so. The simple reality is that you don't gain as much by doing so as you might think.

There are other ways to detect a car outside of radar, laser that are legally permissible. One is pacing. Don't pay attention and have a cop follow behind you and all the jamming in the world won't save you. Two is aerial observation. They can have a plan fly above you to pace you. All the tech in the world won't stop that. Finally the cop can visually estimate your speed. That is legally permissible in most jurisdictions and your active countermeasures won't do shit against it.

Detectors can have some value, but are best against radar and not so hot against laser.

Understand outside of school zones I always speed, I laugh hat how much people are pussies who refuse to pass a cop on the highway. If the cop isn't flashing his lights to slow traffic for some issue I have no problem going 5-7MPH over the speed limit to pass them. Could they pull me over? Sure but it's not generally worth their effort.

That's part of the key to avoid being the big target(and don't act guilty). Heh make the cop want to pull over someone else more. But one other key piece of advice, don't be a dick. You probably can't talk yourself out of a ticket...but you sure as hell can talk yourself into one!


:spock:

yes I am aware of all of the above - Pacing is rare in the city and arial is almost exclusively a BFE tactic....RADAR jammers are illegal federally and carry some stiff penalties - LIDAR jammers used in states that prohibit them a generally less severe but could still land you in the county pokey for a few days.

I'm really just curious who uses them if anyone...

CrazyPhuD 02-09-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10421908)
:spock:

yes I am aware of all of the above - Pacing is rare in the city and arial is almost exclusively a BFE tactic....RADAR jammers are illegal federally and carry some stiff penalties - LIDAR jammers used in states that prohibit them a generally less severe but could still land you in the county pokey for a few days.

I'm really just curious who uses them if anyone...

Sorry I wasn't suggesting people don't know it , I was just listing why it's not worth my effort to do it. As per radar jammers being illegal...sure...but the reality is you won't have the gear to detect it unless I really give you reason to do so.

Lidar Jamming isn't really illegal in most places because its not regulated by the FCC, but technically it's much harder to do effectively because many countermeasures can be defeated in a straight forward way.

The on exception is automated speed cameras etc. Not only are those the devil, they're also much easier to fry because you know where there are. If someone really wanted to cook the camera sensor and or the lidar/radar sensor for those they could do so much easier

For me the issue is you're always fighting the losing battle here, it's better to drive 'smarter' than it is to try to beat the tech.


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