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Canofbier 06-14-2014 04:17 PM

Upgrading my laptop
 
Some background - I bought my current laptop just a bit over three years ago. At the time, it had pretty decent specs:

CPU: Intel i7-2630QM, 2.00GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 460M, 1.5GB
RAM: 8GB DDR3

Nowadays, the old thing is starting to show its age. I am looking to upgrade the GPU for sure. I took the laptop apart earlier today to confirm that the GPU is replaceable, so no worries there. I also saw that my power source goes up to 150W, and even the fanciest mobile video cards don't look to go above 100W, so I'm not worried about that either.

My question is: what is the best mobile GPU I could get that wouldn't be gimped by my older CPU? If it would make more sense to upgrade the both of them, I would consider that, too.

Actually, I'm curious: if I upgrade both the CPU and GPU, will my laptop game as well as a new computer with those same two components? I'm pretty ignorant to how hardware is utilized, but I don't hear much about anything other than CPU and GPU when it comes to running intensive games.

Vegas_Dave 06-14-2014 08:33 PM

Put in a solid state drive. Night and freaking day difference.

Canofbier 06-14-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave (Post 10691856)
Put in a solid state drive. Night and freaking day difference.

I've had one since the day I bought this laptop, actually. I've never had a computer start up faster than the one I have now, so I love it. It has relatively low capacity, though, so I limit it to the OS (Windows) and other primary applications.

Canofbier 06-14-2014 09:15 PM

Perhaps it's worth mentioning: my motherboard is a Micro-Star MS-16F2. I have way too little technical expertise to know what's compatible with it.

DaveNull 06-15-2014 10:13 AM

Do you know what your choke point is on the machine now? That seems like a pretty serviceable machine for a lot of uses.

*edit*

But I'd kick it to 16 GB of RAM and a faster SSD.

Vegas_Dave 06-15-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 10692450)
Do you know what your choke point is on the machine now? That seems like a pretty serviceable machine for a lot of uses.

*edit*

But I'd kick it to 16 GB of RAM and a faster SSD.

Agreed. If your ssd is an older model, a newer model can make a big difference. I live then newer Intel models. Your ram is also low for a gaming rig.

AustinChief 06-15-2014 11:23 AM

16GB of Ram is a must... I'm pretty sure that motherboard has 4 slots (2 front and 2 back) that can each take a 4GB stick.

Canofbier 06-15-2014 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 10692450)
Do you know what your choke point is on the machine now? That seems like a pretty serviceable machine for a lot of uses.

*edit*

But I'd kick it to 16 GB of RAM and a faster SSD.

Since my main problem is low framerates during gaming, I had assumed that my issue was an aged video card.

Canofbier 06-15-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 10692570)
16GB of Ram is a must... I'm pretty sure that motherboard has 4 slots (2 front and 2 back) that can each take a 4GB stick.

You're correct. That being said, if I'm going to upgrade my RAM, I might just upgrade two of 'em; accessing all four sounds like a huge pain in the ass. You don't think that the video card is the cause of poor framerates?

Vegas_Dave 06-15-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 10692704)
You're correct. That being said, if I'm going to upgrade my RAM, I might just upgrade two of 'em; accessing all four sounds like a huge pain in the ass. You don't think that the video card is the cause of poor framerates?

It's part of our for sure, but don't neglect your RAM. Frankly, I find the whole gaming laptop silly for the reasons that you are experiencing now. Build a proper desktop gaming rig and you have far better scalability and performance.

Canofbier 06-15-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave (Post 10692902)
It's part of our for sure, but don't neglect your RAM. Frankly, I find the whole gaming laptop silly for the reasons that you are experiencing now. Build a proper desktop gaming rig and you have far better scalability and performance.

No doubt that it's something to consider. I thought if I could replace one or two parts on my laptop I might get it to last a few more years before building a desktop, but if the replacement effort is more than that it may just be worthwhile to build a new one altogether. I'll have to research a bit more, I think.

Vegas_Dave 06-15-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 10693108)
No doubt that it's something to consider. I thought if I could replace one or two parts on my laptop I might get it to last a few more years before building a desktop, but if the replacement effort is more than that it may just be worthwhile to build a new one altogether. I'll have to research a bit more, I think.

ignore you CPU... its fine. It might not be the fastest compared to whats out there now, but it is a VERY solid CPU.

New World Order 06-15-2014 05:28 PM

Bier do you play games on it? I sent you a pm

AustinChief 06-15-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave (Post 10693112)
ignore you CPU... its fine. It might not be the fastest compared to whats out there now, but it is a VERY solid CPU.

^^ what he said.

The easiest upgrade is RAM and it may be enough to get you where you need to go. I'd go for 16 if it were me but 12 is ok too. I'd definitely try to max out RAM before attacking the GPU. It can get a bit tricky getting a different mobile GPU to actually fit and line up with the heatsink and all that jazz.

So.. if you want to step it up piece by piece until you are comfortable.. go 12GB ram, 16GB ram, new GPU... after that you are better off going with a desktop.

Canofbier 06-15-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10693413)
Bier do you play games on it? I sent you a pm

Yep. Sent a reply just now.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 10693422)
^^ what he said.

The easiest upgrade is RAM and it may be enough to get you where you need to go. I'd go for 16 if it were me but 12 is ok too. I'd definitely try to max out RAM before attacking the GPU. It can get a bit tricky getting a different mobile GPU to actually fit and line up with the heatsink and all that jazz.

So.. if you want to step it up piece by piece until you are comfortable.. go 12GB ram, 16GB ram, new GPU... after that you are better off going with a desktop.

Alright, thanks for your advice. I reached out to the company I bought my laptop from (it's a pretty small website that prides itself on customer service) with questions, so we'll see what they have to say about the upgrade. Hopefully they won't be put-off by the fact that I'm just asking questions and not buying anything extra from them. :)


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