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The Franchise 09-18-2015 10:00 AM

Offensive line last night
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsOLGrades?src=hash">#ChiefsOLGrades</a> Donald Stephenson: 25 Pluses, 17 Stalemates, 13 Minuses Ben Grubbs: 25 Pluses, 26 Stalemates, 6 Minuses</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644897405104705536">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsOLGrades?src=hash">#ChiefsOLGrades</a> Mitch Morse: 20 Pluses, 21 Stalemates, 16 Minuses Laurent Duvernay-Tardif: 6 Pluses, 30 Stalemates, 21 Minuses</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644897487321497600">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="et" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsOLGrades?src=hash">#ChiefsOLGrades</a> Jah Reid: 15 Pluses, 29 Stalemates, 13 Minuses Eric Fisher: 2 Stalemates</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644897567365595136">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The Franchise 09-18-2015 10:01 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three years in and the line still struggles to pickup stunts. Little power run game and defense lacks adjustments in crucial moments.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644729743875530753">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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TEX 09-18-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11739148)
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Donald Stephenson: 25 Pluses, 17 Stalemates, 13 Minuses
Ben Grubbs: 25 Pluses, 26 Stalemates, 6 Minuses</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644897405104705536">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Mitch Morse: 20 Pluses, 21 Stalemates, 16 Minuses
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif: 6 Pluses, 30 Stalemates, 21 Minuses</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644897487321497600">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Jah Reid: 15 Pluses, 29 Stalemates, 13 Minuses
Eric Fisher: 2 Stalemates</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/644897567365595136">September 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Kinda what we all knew going in that the OL is a work in progress and gets worse from left to right. Denver knew that. So does the rest of the league.

I just hoped that it was "good enough" to keep the Chiefs in the hunt till it improved and/or got healthy.

ThaVirus 09-18-2015 10:10 AM

Stephenson and Grubbs are already in midseason form.

Morse looks great for a rookie and it's not unrealistic to assume he'll get better with time.

LDT has struggle but that's to be expected. He's got more potential than anyone on our line aside from Stephenson and Fisher.

Fisher needs to hurry up and make his comeback so we can get the right side figured out. It's the obvious weak point at this point in time. It's doubly bad because Alex sees it every snap and he's already a scared little bitch.

Shaid 09-18-2015 11:11 AM

I thought LDT looked like he got banged up pretty good on one play and he looked worse after that. Don't remember exactly when it was but I remember thinking that he was looking pretty gimpy getting back to the line.

FRCDFED 09-18-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 11739370)
I thought LDT looked like he got banged up pretty good on one play and he looked worse after that. Don't remember exactly when it was but I remember thinking that he was looking pretty gimpy getting back to the line.

I saw the same play where it appeared he struggled to get back to the huddle. I believe he and Stephenson both played injured last night.

srvy 09-18-2015 11:21 AM

Also seen Fisher after he relieve for one play try to help Jamal up after a run and got shruged off cold shoulder.

Teams pissed at that guy.

WhawhaWhat 09-18-2015 11:23 AM

No idea whether Dorsey's story about 2 other teams behind them wanting to take Mitch Morse in the second round is true or not, but I'm glad they didn't get an opportunity.

Shaid 09-18-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 11739382)
I saw the same play where it appeared he struggled to get back to the huddle. I believe he and Stephenson both played injured last night.

Yeah, glad we have a long break before the next game.

Rain Man 09-18-2015 11:31 AM

I want to see how many times Jamell Fleming was targeted, and how many completions he yielded.

Actually, I don't WANT to see it, but a part of me needs to see it. It's kind of like looking at your incision after surgery.

ThaVirus 09-18-2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11739423)
I want to see how many times Jamell Fleming was targeted, and how many completions he yielded.

Actually, I don't WANT to see it, but a part of me needs to see it. It's kind of like looking at your incision after surgery.

According to what others have posted, he was targeted 13 times and gave up 9 catches for 128 yards and a TD. He had 1 PD and, going off my memory, had 1 penalty.

Rain Man 09-18-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11739435)
According to what others have posted, he was targeted 13 times and gave up 9 catches for 128 yards and a TD. He had 1 PD and, going off my memory, had 1 penalty.

That was all? Really? It seemed like it was way, way more than that. That's only about half of their passing yardage.

ThaVirus 09-18-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11739445)
That was all? Really? It seemed like it was way, way more than that. That's only about half of their passing yardage.

I'm not sure where they got those numbers. BossChief posted a graph in another thread. It appears to be from PFF.

philfree 09-18-2015 11:45 AM

The biggest thing with the O line is they don't get it done on 3rd down. As good as our D is it couldn't close the game out on 3rd downs either. We get pressure until the game is on the line and then we don't finish.

TinyEvel 09-18-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11739423)
I want to see how many times Jamell Fleming was targeted, and how many completions he yielded.

Actually, I don't WANT to see it, but a part of me needs to see it. It's kind of like looking at your poop after you use the toilet.

FYP


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