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petegz28 11-21-2016 10:39 AM

Offense v. Defense using comparable stats
 
We keep hearing from some on here how the Chiefs are the 28th ranked offense. In the same breath the people defend the defense by saying "they only gave up X points".

Okay so fair enough, but not really. Let's look at like for like.

Scoring offense (because points are what matters)
Chiefs are 19th. Not 28th

Scoring defense (because points are what matters)
Chiefs are 5th - very good

now compare the same stat that people like to tout as 28th ranked offense..yards per game

Yards Per Game Offense:
Chiefs are 24th

Yards Per Game Defense:
Chiefs are 25th

So pick your poison but keep it consistent on both sides of the ball

Simply Red 11-21-2016 10:40 AM

Oh well, It's only a game.

The Franchise 11-21-2016 10:41 AM

The Chiefs have more scoring opportunities BECAUSE the defense creates all of those turnovers. They still only score FGs.

petegz28 11-21-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12569177)
The Chiefs have more scoring opportunities BECAUSE the defense creates all of those turnovers. They still only score FGs.

Yeah you totally missed the point of the thread.....good job

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-21-2016 10:47 AM

If the battle is supposedly won in the trenches...it's a shame our run defense is tied for the bottom 5 and gives up the 6th most rushing yards each game.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...sition/defense

Sandy Vagina 11-21-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12569177)
The Chiefs have more scoring opportunities BECAUSE the defense creates all of those turnovers. They still only score FGs.

at times, very true.. but then you have to keep it fair and realize that if the KC D can't get off the field and gives up TOP like they did yesterday.. it minimizes
the opportunities the O has to score.

then I hear you bitch about Andy Reid's playcalling.. all of you.. and then you wonder WHY the offense struggles to score TDs? or worse, point to an individual?

The team has a lot of problems... and is still 7-3. THAT's what should give people hope.

The top players return from injury.. the playcalls get cleaned up a bit.. the QB gets some confidence back... maybe they can still make an impressive run.

Beef Supreme 11-21-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12569237)
at times, very true.. but then you have to keep it fair and realize that if the KC D can't get off the field and gives up TOP like they did yesterday.. it minimizes
the opportunities the O has to score.

then I hear you bitch about Andy Reid's playcalling.. all of you.. and then you wonder WHY the offense struggles to score TDs? or worse, point to an individual?

The team has a lot of problems... and is still 7-3. THAT's what should give people hope.

The top players return from injury.. the playcalls get cleaned up a bit.. the QB gets some confidence back... maybe they can still make an impressive run.

The Chiefs had the ball 9 times. The Bucs had the ball 8 times.

notorious 11-21-2016 11:32 AM

Did you subtract defensive touchdowns from the total points scored?

ptlyon 11-21-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12569274)
The Chiefs had the ball 9 times. The Bucs had the ball 8 times.

If you subtract the kneel down right before half they are the same

notorious 11-21-2016 11:35 AM

Offense is scoring 19.4 points a game. This INCLUDES a billion turnovers in opponent territory that lead to field goals.

Dayze 11-21-2016 11:37 AM

did I hear a stat correctly yesterday in the broadcast when they mentioned the Chiefs offense hadn't scored a TD in 8 quarters? (prior to the Alex Smith run for TD).

petegz28 11-21-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12569311)
Did you subtract defensive touchdowns from the total points scored?

Offensive points scored is how it was sorted....ask the NFL

jspchief 11-21-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12569320)
Offense is scoring 19.4 points a game. This INCLUDES a billion turnovers in opponent territory that lead to field goals.

League avg. is around 23 ppg.

petegz28 11-21-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12569317)
If you subtract the kneel down right before half they are the same

And the take away our possession with 8 secs left in the game as well as it was never going to happen

The Franchise 11-21-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12569334)
And the take away our possession with 8 secs left in the game as well as it was never going to happen

We're still only 1 less than the Bucs.....but keep acting like we had 4 possessions all game.


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