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Couch-Potato 02-08-2022 06:43 AM

ESPN's 2-RD Chiefs Mock Draft:
 
30. Kansas City Chiefs
Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama

Prior to tearing an ACL in the national title game, Williams had a strong case for being the first wide receiver off the board. I still expect him to go in the top 35 picks, but teams will have to think beyond the 2022 season, because he might have to miss some time as a rookie. He could land in the perfect spot in Kansas City, joining an explosive offense that has been in search of adding a deep threat alongside Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce and Mecole Hardman. Williams would give the Chiefs a strength on a strength, adding another target for quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

Biggest needs: WR, EDGE, DB



62. Kansas City Chiefs
Martin Emerson, CB, Mississippi State

Emerson could get more buzz over the next two months, as he is a strong and physical corner who quietly had a productive season for the Bulldogs, even if he didn't have any interceptions. He could be a popular choice for teams that run lots of zone scheme concepts.

Biggest needs: WR, EDGE, DB

AdolfOliverBush 02-08-2022 09:20 AM

They likely won't get Williams without trading up, but it's an interesting thought.

I think EDGE is a bigger need than WR.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16135677)
They likely won't get Williams without trading up, but it's an interesting thought.

I think EDGE is a bigger need than WR.

Edge is also cheaper and easier to address in free agency/trade.

For me, it's DE and WR. And then everything else.

1a DE
1b WR
2 CB/S
3 DT
4 OT
5 SLB

The Franchise 02-08-2022 09:44 AM

This offense doesn’t need another deep threat. It needs a WR to get open in single coverage when they’re taking away Hill and Kelce. And it needs one now….not later in the year when they’re finally healthy.

This is lazy ****ing writing.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2022 10:24 AM

John Metchie is a better fit for KC than Williams. I think that probably makes more sense for KC if they're targeting one of the Bama WRs.

He doesn't have QUITE as much crazy speed, but he's on track to be back to football activities by August/September (clean ACL tear, he's already 2 months out), and he's a more polished/rounded receiver than Williams.

The Franchise 02-08-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16135774)
John Metchie is a better fit for KC than Williams. I think that probably makes more sense for KC if they're targeting one of the Bama WRs.

He doesn't have QUITE as much crazy speed, but he's on track to be back to football activities by August/September (clean ACL tear, he's already 2 months out), and he's a more polished/rounded receiver than Williams.

Or...and hear me out....how about we don't draft a WR that high who's coming off of a major injury already in their career.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16135784)
Or...and hear me out....how about we don't draft a WR that high who's coming off of a major injury already in their career.

Shit man. I'd gladly draft Metchie in round 2 (and maybe even move up a bit to get him) and let him sit for the first quarter of the season.

They've shown a clear willingness to draft less valuable positions in round 2 and not get immediate returns from them.

ACL injuries usually are not a big deal and it sounds like Metchie's falls in the "clean" territory. Not really a predictor of future problems. He doesn't have other injury concerns that I recall.

Dante84 02-08-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16135788)
Shit man. I'd gladly draft Metchie in round 2 (and maybe even move up a bit to get him) and let him sit for the first quarter of the season.

They've shown a clear willingness to draft less valuable positions in round 2 and not get immediate returns from them.

ACL injuries usually are not a big deal and it sounds like Metchie's falls in the "clean" territory. Not really a predictor of future problems. He doesn't have other injury concerns that I recall.

Yessir - Edge Round 1, Metchie Round 2 is a train that I am riding on.

Toad 02-08-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16135881)
Yessir - Edge Round 1, Metchie Round 2 is a train that I am riding on.

I’m down with that. Dreams of Jermaine Johnson in R1 and Metchie in R2 run thru my head.

kcbubb 02-09-2022 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16135708)
This offense doesn’t need another deep threat. It needs a WR to get open in single coverage when they’re taking away Hill and Kelce. And it needs one now….not later in the year when they’re finally healthy.

This is lazy ****ing writing.

How is it lazy? Hardman is probably gone after next so we have room for another speedster and Williams is a good route runner. Bama does a good job of developing their wrs. Plus the way defenses are playing us with 2 deep safeties. we run lots of crossing routes where speed is a huge advantage. Bring a FA in that already knows the system and can contribute immediately and is cheap, like Sammy Watkins who made $5M last year and will make less this year on a one year deal. 3 years of reps with mahomes helps. I don’t see this as lazy at all.

kcbubb 02-09-2022 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16135881)
Yessir - Edge Round 1, Metchie Round 2 is a train that I am riding on.

Do y’all really think a de at the end of round 1 can come in and produce 10 sacks? Too risky. We need immediate production at de. DE is our biggest need. FA is the answer at DE.

Couch-Potato 02-09-2022 01:20 AM

Personally, I'd like to see both WR and ED addressed in FA + the draft. Say we nab JuJu on a 1-year deal, then Williams would be a perfect pick as he'd have a year to heal before he hits the limelight. I agree that it's hard to expect a rookie DE to come in and put up 10 sacks, so we should look for that production from a vet because there are several quality/affordible options and develop a younger guy.

How about...

Move on from Clark, nab JuJu + Clowney, & bring back Ingram...
+
1. WR Williams, Bama
2. DE/OLB Bonito, OU

Williams heals up then replaces JuJu after a 1-year prove-it deal, and Bonito gets reps 1st year as a pass rushing specialist on 3rd down.

kcbubb 02-09-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16136915)
Say we nab JuJu on a 1-year deal, then Williams would be a perfect pick as he'd have a year to heal before he hits the limelight.

Is juju going to be able to pick up the system quickly? Will mahomes be able to trust him? Mahomes needs guys he can trust. You can almost feel it in the game. He has such a trust for kelce and Hill. I doubt he will be able to trust a wr like juju or other fa that come in from a different system quickly. Mahomes needs that confidence to trust his wrs.

htismaqe 02-09-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16137100)
Is juju going to be able to pick up the system quickly? Will mahomes be able to trust him? Mahomes needs guys he can trust. You can almost feel it in the game. He has such a trust for kelce and Hill. I doubt he will be able to trust a wr like juju or other fa that come in from a different system quickly. Mahomes needs that confidence to trust his wrs.

You see to be saying we need immediate impact at WR while simultaneously advocating for drafting a WR.

Those two things are almost mutually exclusive. There's a much, much greater chance a FA WR can play right away than a rookie in this offense. Not to mention the fact that the WR in this scenario is a guy that won't even be healthy to start the season.

Drafted defensive players have a much better chance of playing right away. A drafted DE would play long before a drafted WR, given how this team is constructed.

The best answer is to pursue one or more WR's in free agency and focus on defense in the draft. That doesn't preclude acquiring free agent defenders but drafting a WR would be tantamount to wasting a 1st round pick, at least for 2022.

kcbubb 02-09-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16137118)
You see to be saying we need immediate impact at WR while simultaneously advocating for drafting a WR.

Those two things are almost mutually exclusive. There's a much, much greater chance a FA WR can play right away than a rookie in this offense. Not to mention the fact that the WR in this scenario is a guy that won't even be healthy to start the season.

Drafted defensive players have a much better chance of playing right away. A drafted DE would play long before a drafted WR, given how this team is constructed.

The best answer is to pursue one or more WR's in free agency and focus on defense in the draft. That doesn't preclude acquiring free agent defenders but drafting a WR would be tantamount to wasting a 1st round pick, at least for 2022.

I’d draft Jameson in the first and sign Sammy Watkins to a 1 year deal for $4M. Most of the other FA won’t know the system and won’t have pats trust. Do both. Get a stop gap that’s better than drob and Pringle and draft the future. Then spend your money on de. And draft defense in the rest with developmental guys.


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