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Rain Man 03-14-2022 11:38 PM

The All-Time Chiefs Single-Season Team
 
Random offseason thread. I looked at the AV value that pro-football-reference applies to players and picked out the highest single-season AVs in Chiefs history. (Sorry, returners not available since they don't define that as a position.)

I let players move to similar positions, e.g., FS and SS, LG and RG, HB and FB, etc.

Here's the first-string team. It's a 3-4.

RB Priest Holmes 2002
RB Abner Haynes 1962
QB Patrick Mahomes 2018
WR Otis Taylor 1966
WR Tyreek Hill 2018
TE Travis Kelce 2018
OT Willie Roaf 2004
G Brian Waters 2004
C Tim Grunhard 1991
G Will Shields 2002
OT Mitchell Schwartz 2018
K Jan Stenerud 1969
P Jerrel Wilson 1968
S Deron Cherry 1984
S Johnny Robinson 1968
CB Albert Lewis 1989
CB Emmitt Thomas 1974
OLB Derrick Thomas 1991
OLB Bobby Bell 1969
ILB Willie Lanier 1973
ILB Sherrill Headrick 1962
DE Jared Allen 2007
DE Neil Smith 1995
DT Buck Buchanan 1969

Here's the second team. It's a 4-3.

RB Larry Johnson 2006
RB Jamaal Charles 2010
QB Len Dawson 1962
WR Derrick Alexander 2000
WR Dwayne Bowe 2010
TE Tony Gonzalez 2004
OT Jim Tyrer 1967
G Ed Budde 1966
C Jack Rudnay 1976
G Dave Szott 1997
OT John Alt 1990
K Nick Lowery 1982
P Jim Arnold 1984
S Bobby Hunt 1962
S Eric Berry 2016
CB James Hasty 1997
CB Dale Carter 1995
OLB Justin Houston 2014
OLB E.J. Holub 1962
MLB Derrick Johnson 2015
DE Art Still 1984
DE Mel Branch 1960
DT Dan Saleaumua 1995
DT Chris Jones 2020

This concludes the thread. You may comment on it if you wish, or you can merely think about it while walking in the woods.

Rasputin 03-15-2022 05:11 AM

Pound for pound I'm going say that hardest hitter would be Deron Cherry. We would deliver the wood.

Willie Roaf actually literally ate linebackers but from what I remember Deron Cherry could hit like Ronny Lot.

Deron Cherry could knock out Eric Berry spirit.

Rasputin 03-15-2022 05:15 AM

You have Jared Allen 2007 out of position he was drafted as a long snapper. He often played out of position. Over rated long snapper taken too high in the draft.

Flying High D 03-15-2022 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16192035)
Pound for pound I'm going say that hardest hitter would be Deron Cherry. We would deliver the wood.

Willie Roaf actually literally ate linebackers but from what I remember Deron Cherry could hit like Ronny Lot.

Deron Cherry could knock out Eric Berry spirit.

Gary Barbaro would knock the dog shit out them.

Rasputin 03-15-2022 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 16192077)
Gary Barbaro would knock the dog shit out them.


Well I won't argue for whom was just before my time watching football but i bet he was fun to watch.

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Flying High D 03-15-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16192082)
Well I won't argue for whom was just before my time watching football but i bet he was fun to watch.

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I can relate, I’ve missed decades of Chiefs being deployed, always overseas and life happening. In six weeks I get transferred from S. Korea to Kuwait. Someday my life will be my own, lol.

ThaVirus 03-15-2022 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16191962)
RB Priest Holmes 2002
RB Abner Haynes 1962
QB Patrick Mahomes 2018
WR Otis Taylor 1966
WR Tyreek Hill 2018
TE Travis Kelce 2018
OT Willie Roaf 2004
G Brian Waters 2004
C Tim Grunhard 1991
G Will Shields 2002
OT Mitchell Schwartz 2018

Ugh. This offense would destroy anything in its path.

Seriously. I don't even think a all-time single-season Ravens, Steelers or Bears defense would be able to stop it.

scho63 03-15-2022 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16192035)
Pound for pound I'm going say that hardest hitter would be Deron Cherry. We would deliver the wood.

Do you not remember James Hasty? That dude was nasty :rockon:

scho63 03-15-2022 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 16192077)
Gary Barbaro would knock the dog shit out them.

He was awesome and played on some of our most horrendous teams. Him and Art Still deserved better.

scho63 03-15-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16191962)
RB Priest Holmes 2002
RB Abner Haynes 1962 Jamaal Charles
QB Patrick Mahomes 2018
WR Otis Taylor 1966
WR Tyreek Hill 2018
TE Travis Kelce 2018
OT Willie Roaf 2004
G Brian Waters 2004
C Tim Grunhard 1991
G Will Shields 2002
OT Mitchell Schwartz 2018
K Jan Stenerud 1969 Nick Lowery
P Jerrel Wilson 1968
S Deron Cherry 1984
S Johnny Robinson 1968
CB Albert Lewis 1989
CB Emmitt Thomas 1974
OLB Derrick Thomas 1991
OLB Bobby Bell 1969
ILB Willie Lanier 1973
DE Jared Allen 2007
DE Neil Smith 1995
DT Buck Buchanan 1969
TE Tony Gonzalez 2004
S Eric Berry 2016
CB James Hasty 1997
CB Dale Carter 1995
OLB Justin Houston 2014
MLB Derrick Johnson 2015
DE Art Still 1984
DT Chris Jones 2020
KR Dante Hall I ADDED

This concludes the thread. You may comment on it if you wish, or you can merely think about it while walking in the woods.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16192100)
Ugh. This offense would destroy anything in its path.

Seriously. I don't even think a all-time single-season Ravens, Steelers or Bears defense would be able to stop it.

Imagine having all these guys in their prime on our roster!

Gary Cooper 03-15-2022 08:07 AM

I've blocked 2007-2009 from my memory. Does 2007 Jared Allen really deserve first team status?

Stewie 03-15-2022 08:28 AM

If similar positions are allowed (RG to LG, etc.) I would have John Alt miles ahead of Mitchell Scwartz. That guy was a beast for years.

scho63 03-15-2022 08:38 AM

The talent we squandered over the last 40 years with no star QB is horrific.

Fans from very few other teams can understand what it is like now for us in KC.

Mahomes is like Jesus Christ himself has returned from the dead.

oldman 03-15-2022 08:38 AM

I'll take a backseat to RM on any season's performance previous to 1963, but I agree with just about all the other choices. For those of you that never saw MR. Willie Lanier play, you missed something. The NFL can talk about Huff and Butkus all day long, but #63 was the best MLB I've ever seen. Some of the others: ET, master of the bump and run. Deron Cherry, great cover guy and he'd lay the wood. When you consider that Stenerud played about half his games on the field at old Muni in '69 and still made 77%, it makes you wonder what he could have done on the sweet turf of Arrowhead.

irafreak 03-15-2022 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 16192310)
If similar positions are allowed (RG to LG, etc.) I would have John Alt miles ahead of Mitchell Scwartz. That guy was a beast for years.

I know it's based on ratings and single seasons but I would like to replace Larry Johnson with my favorite all time chief the Nigerian nightmare. I know lj is probably the better back but if stewie can field a team with 3 guards and one tackle, then damnit I want to see okoye run behind that line. 😁


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