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Stewie 12-07-2022 07:54 PM

Rape charges dropped against Araiza and other SDSU players
 
Former Buffalo Bills punter Matt Araiza and former teammates on the San Diego State football team will not face criminal charges in connection with an alleged gang rape of a minor that occurred at an off-campus party in October 2021, the San Diego County District Attorney's Office announced Wednesday.

"Ultimately, prosecutors determined it is clear the evidence does not support the filing of criminal charges and there is no path to a potential criminal conviction," the district attorney's office said in a statement. "Prosecutors can only file charges when they ethically believe they can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt."

The DA's office said the San Diego Police Department did not recommend charges be filed when the case was submitted in early August.

Demonpenz 12-07-2022 08:07 PM

flooding the cave

Red Dawg 12-07-2022 08:31 PM

Did they lie?

Wallcrawler 12-07-2022 08:37 PM

Thats a pretty heinous accusation to make.

It's going to follow the guy forever, no matter what happened.

Pablo 12-07-2022 08:41 PM

As long as this hurt the bills I’m fine with this guy’s career and life being ruined

Why Not? 12-07-2022 08:49 PM

I hope the Bills lose a playoff game because of a shitty punt.

BryanBusby 12-07-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16653073)
Thats a pretty heinous accusation to make.

It's going to follow the guy forever, no matter what happened.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen. Doesn't mean it was a prosecution botch either.

Hard to say without the hard facts.

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-07-2022 08:53 PM

Believe all women cost another man his career.

Innocent until proven guilty is a better system than social media mob rule.

RedinTexas 12-07-2022 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16653095)
Believe all women cost another man his career.

Innocent until proven guilty is a better system than social media mob rule.

Unfortunately, the fact that they're not pressing the charges doesn't mean the guy is innocent. I'm not saying he's guilty. We just don't know that he's innocent.

Wallcrawler 12-07-2022 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16653098)
Unfortunately, the fact that they're not pressing the charges doesn't mean the guy is innocent. I'm not saying he's guilty. We just don't know that he's innocent.

What kind of fence riding shit is this?

Evidence does not support the story that was given. Ergo, he is innocent of the accusations in the story until proven guilty.

Since there were no charges, based on no evidence, I'd say that leans toward **** off I didn't do this thing I'm being accused of.

But like I said, no matter what actually happened, he's guilty already with certain people.

Your post is proof of concept.

Why Not? 12-07-2022 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16653098)
Unfortunately, the fact that they're not pressing the charges doesn't mean the guy is innocent.

Depends on how you view it. If you believe in our system of justice, that's exactly what it means.

BryanBusby 12-07-2022 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16653105)
What kind of fence riding shit is this?

Evidence does not support the story that was given. Ergo, he is innocent of the accusations in the story until proven guilty.

Since there were no charges, based on no evidence, I'd say that leans toward **** off I didn't do this thing I'm being accused of.

But like I said, no matter what actually happened, he's guilty already with certain people.

Your post is proof of concept.

Yes, but it doesn't discount that the San Diego PD completely fumbled the **** out of the investigation.

Ultimately both sides are burned in the end. Matt could be 100% innocent and they possibly ****ed it by failing at their jobs. She could have been right and won't get her moment because they ****ed up.

We'll never know.

They should have done right by her by following proper procedure and to him by coming to a conclusion before he entered the NFL. They possibly robbed him of a career by being ****ing incompetent.

Skyy God 12-07-2022 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16653105)
What kind of fence riding shit is this?

Evidence does not support the story that was given. Ergo, he is innocent of the accusations in the story until proven guilty.

Since there were no charges, based on no evidence, I'd say that leans toward **** off I didn't do this thing I'm being accused of.

But like I said, no matter what actually happened, he's guilty already with certain people.

Your post is proof of concept.

I can’t even……

Pitt Gorilla 12-07-2022 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16653095)
Believe all women cost another man his career.

Innocent until proven guilty is a better system than social media mob rule.

Where do you stand on people who have been charged, but not convicted, of crimes?

RedinTexas 12-07-2022 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16653107)
Depends on how you view it. If you believe in our system of justice, that's exactly what it means.

There are two kinds of innocent. When they say you're innocent until proven guilty, it means that you're innocent in the eyes of the law. That doesn't necessarily mean you didn't actually do it though.

When they said they didn't have enough to prosecute, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is no evidence. To convict someone of a crime, you're supposed to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. You can have lots of evidence of guilt and still fall short of that standard. It's entirely possible that the prosecution believed they didn't have enough evidence to convict at this time. Dropping the charges allows them to refile the charges at a later date if more evidence comes to light. Prosecuting the guy and getting a not guilty verdict permanently enjoins the government from ever prosecuting the guy for that crime ever again.


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