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kccrow 02-14-2023 09:22 PM

BJ Ojulari vs Derick Hall
 
BJ Ojulari (6'3" 244, age 20) or Derick Hall (6'3" 251, age 21)

I prefer Hall but I've seen a few guys on Ojulari. I think it's relatively close.

Ojulari Stats
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Year        School        Conf        Class        Pos        G        Solo        Ast        Tot        Loss        Sk        Int        Yds        Avg        TD        PD        FR        Yds        TD        FF
2020        LSU        SEC        FR        LB        8        12        4        16        5.0        4.0        0        0                0        1        1                        1
*2021        LSU        SEC        SO        DE        12        31        23        54        12.0        7.0        0        0                0        1        0                        0
*2022        LSU        SEC        JR        DE        11        34        24        58        8.5        5.5        0        0                0        0        1        0        0        1

Hall Stats
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Year        School        Conf        Class        Pos        G        Solo        Ast        Tot        Loss        Sk        Int        Yds        Avg        TD        PD        FR        Yds        TD        FF
*2019        Auburn        SEC        FR        LB        7        9        4        13        1.5        0.0        0        0                0        0        0                        0
*2020        Auburn        SEC        SO        LB        8        16        5        21        4.0        4.0        0        0                0        0        0                        1
*2021        Auburn        SEC        JR        LB        13        33        19        52        12.5        9.0        0        0                0        0        0                        2
2022        Auburn        SEC        SR        DL        12        41        19        60        11.5        6.5        1        19        19.0        0        0        1        0        0        2

Ojulari Highlights:

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Hall Highlights:

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duncan_idaho 02-14-2023 09:47 PM

Hall has more tricks in the bag right now. Think I lean that way. You've done a good job making a case for him, and the highlights back it up.

staylor26 02-14-2023 10:12 PM

I think Hall is the safer pick, but if Ojulari is over 250, I think I'd rather take the bigger swing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Checking out BJ Ojulari a little bit today, and this dude can seriously turn a corner. These still images help illustrate the absurd angle that Ojulari cuts as he executes his ghost rush and turns the corner. <br><br>Not many can do that, I tell you whhhhhhaaaaaatttt. <a href="https://t.co/bPdmWIuSwT">pic.twitter.com/bPdmWIuSwT</a></p>&mdash; John Owning (@JohnOwning) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnOwning/status/1625183321671229441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's very close for me though.

Tribal Warfare 02-15-2023 03:25 AM

If you go strictly on the PFF draft value rating then Ojulari is the guy, but I like Hall more too

JPH83 02-15-2023 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16811365)
If you go strictly on the PFF draft value rating then Ojulari is the guy, but I like Hall more too

I'm the same. I don't really get Ojulari if I'm honest, in particular his get off and speed just don't look particularly impressive to me.

Direckshun 02-15-2023 08:31 AM

Ojulari all day.

It's an Andy Reid special, too. Get the guy who has a brother in the game. Bank on them being the same kinds of players.

Neither player is a great fit for a Spags DL but this team needs more sacks off the edge, and Ojulari 100% will get them for you, possibly by Year 1. But definitely by Year 3.

O.city 02-15-2023 08:34 AM

If you have them close, shouldn't you go for the younger guy?

DJ's left nut 02-15-2023 09:08 AM

I really like Ojulari.

But like Direkshun said, I don't know that Spags will like either of them.

To me, he's an absolutely perfect fit as the weak side DE and frankly I wouldn't even hate bringing Clark back on a (very) reasonable deal to rotate with him. I think he and George complement each other really well.

I just love that bend. And yes, he has some work to do, but that kid could be a 12 sack/yr player if you can get a little more weight on him and coach him up. There is a LOT to work with there.

kccrow 02-15-2023 09:35 AM

The thing with the fit is that they are both really close to the same size as Frank Clark. Hell, they might be bigger than Clark is currently. I don't know if it would be an issue for Spags. That said, he and Cullen prefer some length to get up in those passing lanes when they can't get home.

As for Ojulari, just because Azeez is great doesn't mean he will be great. I don't take much out of brothers in the league. There have been plenty in the NFL and not all are both future HOFers.

I like Ojulari and think he's a good prospect. I'd have no issue with KC taking him whatsoever. I just think Hall is a little better against the run, is every bit as good of a pass rusher, and his motor is running just as hot late in the 4th as it is in the 1st quarter. I have no issue with anyone arguing the other way, just how my eyes see it.

O.city 02-15-2023 09:57 AM

I think I like Hall better.

staylor26 02-15-2023 11:05 AM

Along with these 2, I think Will McDonald will be in the convo.

He was only 241 at the Senior Bowl, but I think he has the frame to put on 10-15 pounds.

He has freaskishly long arms to make up for it though. That's why I think we should at least keep our eye on him throughout the process.

staylor26 02-15-2023 11:17 AM

And one more thing about Ojulari, dude is only 20 years old. He doesn't even turn 21 until around the draft.

He racked up 7 sacks in the SEC as a 19 year old Soph. His production dropped a little this year, but the flashes were absolutely still there.

O.city 02-15-2023 11:18 AM

Yeah I do like the young upside. You may have a few years till he hits his physical prime still so that would be beneficial.

DJ's left nut 02-15-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16811886)
And one more thing about Ojulari, dude is only 20 years old. He doesn't even turn 21 until around the draft.

He racked up 7 sacks in the SEC as a 19 year old Soph. His production dropped a little this year, but the flashes were absolutely still there.

Age was my tiebreaker.

Ojulari is still a baby with more projection left.

kccrow 02-15-2023 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16811862)
Along with these 2, I think Will McDonald will be in the convo.

He was only 241 at the Senior Bowl, but I think he has the frame to put on 10-15 pounds.

He has freaskishly long arms to make up for it though. That's why I think we should at least keep our eye on him throughout the process.

He'll absolutely be in the convo for sure. I don't think we should realistically sleep on Anudike-Uzomah either. He's a pretty twitchy edge that's a little longer like McDonald. We'll have to see where his arms measure but I bet its close to 35.


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