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staylor26 02-21-2023 11:53 AM

Daniel Jeremiah Mock 2.0
 
https://www.nfl.com/_amp/daniel-jere...ill-anderson-j

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Kansas City Chiefs

Nolan Smith
Georgia · Edge · Senior
Smith is an outstanding athlete who reminds me a little bit of Haason Reddick when he was coming out of Temple. Smith would get a lot of pass-rush opportunities in Kansas City, thanks to the Patrick Mahomes-led offense.
Love the player, just unsure about the fit. If Spags co-signs I'm fully on board though.

kccrow 02-21-2023 12:03 PM

I really don't care for Nolan Smith. He's not a 1st round talent at all and he's not a great scheme fit either. That's a BS, stick a guy in a spot, pick if I've ever seen one.

raybec 4 02-21-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16821248)
I really don't care for Nolan Smith. He's not a 1st round talent at all and he's not a great scheme fit either. That's a BS, stick a guy in a spot, pick if I've ever seen one.

He sure didn't have what I would call 1st round production. He's not nearly big enough for our scheme either.

el borracho 02-21-2023 12:31 PM

A 235 pound DE? No, thank you.

JPH83 02-21-2023 01:13 PM

Oh man I would LOVE this pick. Way better against the run than he should be and exactly the juice we need. Is he a fit? Not really but God damn we could use that speed.

kozzman555 02-21-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16821383)
Oh man I would LOVE this pick. Way better against the run than he should be and exactly the juice we need. Is he a fit? Not really but God damn we could use that speed.

I don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a situational pass rusher. He's had years of a top quality weightroom and training facilities and just doesn't have enough sand in his pants to be probably even a 2 down DE in our scheme. He's not going to get bigger when he gets here. That's a stand up 3-4 OLB to me. Hard pass for our scheme.

Titty Meat 02-21-2023 03:27 PM

No thank you

kccrow 02-21-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 16821697)
I don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a situational pass rusher. He's had years of a top quality weightroom and training facilities and just doesn't have enough sand in his pants to be probably even a 2 down DE in our scheme. He's not going to get bigger when he gets here. That's a stand up 3-4 OLB to me. Hard pass for our scheme.

I don't know if he can even play OLB in a 3-4. I think 3-4 ILB playing to the strong side is his most likely destination. He's just not big enough and he's not that good of a pass rusher. I'm scratching my head on why Jeremiah would even waste the "ink" to make himself look incredibly stupid.

Chris Meck 02-22-2023 07:47 AM

He's way too small.

Iczer 02-22-2023 07:54 AM

I'm sure I'm missing something, that's why I'm asking here. For the ones saying he's too small, he's like 10lbs smaller than Parsons who's an OLB. Would we not benefit from a speed rusher?

JPH83 02-22-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16822374)
I'm sure I'm missing something, that's why I'm asking here. For the ones saying he's too small, he's like 10lbs smaller than Parsons who's an OLB. Would we not benefit from a speed rusher?

I don't really get it, I bet he comes about 240 in the end and he plays about 20lbs heavier against the run. He just doesn't get run over. We won't pick him and people are absolutely right there are better fits for 3 down guys in our system but as a change of pace guy who will absolutely provide something we don't have and need, and who will not be a liability against the run, he would be an impact, and I'd be all for it.

JPH83 02-22-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 16821697)
I don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a situational pass rusher. He's had years of a top quality weightroom and training facilities and just doesn't have enough sand in his pants to be probably even a 2 down DE in our scheme. He's not going to get bigger when he gets here. That's a stand up 3-4 OLB to me. Hard pass for our scheme.

Respect the argument, I just see someone who plays a lot bigger. That won't hold up all the time at the next level but it will enough, imo. I'd take him or Will McDonald even if they just end up 3rd down specialists. We need quick pressure and we are not getting it with endless jumbo ends

staylor26 02-22-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16823066)
I don't really get it, I bet he comes about 240 in the end and he plays about 20lbs heavier against the run. He just doesn't get run over. We won't pick him and people are absolutely right there are better fits for 3 down guys in our system but as a change of pace guy who will absolutely provide something we don't have and need, and who will not be a liability against the run, he would be an impact, and I'd be all for it.

I agree with this completely. Everybody says the same thing about him, he's light, but he doesn't play like it in the run game. That is what gives him a shot to be a potential outlier in terms of fit.

Just like with Will McDonald, there's ridiculously long arms.

And Ojulari has a very unique ability to bend, and a nasty ghost move (i know you aren't really a fan though lol).

I have no idea how the Chiefs will view any of these smaller pass rushers, but I think there are reasons that I can see them overlooking their size for a chance to get a unique talent.

JPH83 02-22-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16823077)
I agree with this completely. Everybody says the same thing about him, he's light, but he doesn't play like it in the run game. That is what gives him a shot to be a potential outlier in terms of fit.

Just like with Will McDonald, there's ridiculously long arms.

And Ojulari has a very unique ability to bend, and a nasty ghost move (i know you aren't really a fan though lol).

I have no idea how the Chiefs will view any of these smaller pass rushers, but I think there are reasons that I can see them overlooking their size for a chance to get a unique talent.

My man, let's go staylor! I mean I'm pretty certain it'll be another bruiser at DE if we go there, in which case cool, it'll work. I know it's pretty unlikely but I'm fantasising about just having a speed freak.

Chris Meck 02-22-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16823077)
I agree with this completely. Everybody says the same thing about him, he's light, but he doesn't play like it in the run game. That is what gives him a shot to be a potential outlier in terms of fit.

Just like with Will McDonald, there's ridiculously long arms.

And Ojulari has a very unique ability to bend, and a nasty ghost move (i know you aren't really a fan though lol).

I have no idea how the Chiefs will view any of these smaller pass rushers, but I think there are reasons that I can see them overlooking their size for a chance to get a unique talent.

man, no way this kid is a 3 down 4-3 defensive end. Just no ****in' way. He's giving up 90 ****ing pounds or so on every down to an OT.

Situational pass rusher for a 4-3 team only, and no way you blow a first on that.

Now, if you're a 3-4 team, maybe you can make an argument.

But he's literally smaller than Willie Gay or Leo Chenal-and Chenal was more productive as a pass rusher as an off-ball linebacker, for ****'s sake.

Just no. No.


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