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Originally Posted by KC_Connection
Response to a stimulus (the push) and then response without conscious thought (the tame slap that's been gradually turned into some vicious attack). Same thing happened to Embiid when he gave a shot to Nino Williams (and then I believe it happened a game after that too when he got hit in the face and then swung his arms, but didn't make contact). Neither was a calculated decision by either player and clearly fits the definition that I posted.
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I didn't say it was a vicious attack. I said it was out of the bounds of the game, stupid, and hardly a reflex. In both cases, they got hit, sized up their opponent and delivered a hit. That's a reaction, not a reflex. A reflex is out of your control. They could both have chosen not to. If you'll notice, Embiid has gotten it under control. He gets hit every game now, but he doesn't retaliate. He's controlling it, meaning it's not a reflex.
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And when I played sports competitively (particularly hockey), I can often remember giving people shots without thinking about it if they checked me. There was nothing pre-considered about it, it was just an instinctive thing to getting hit.
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Hockey is not basketball. Retaliatory shoves are expected and allowed. Hardly the same in basketball.