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Old 04-11-2014, 11:16 PM   #25
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All I did was post my first hand experience with it. Don't know how that was being anti windows RT.
Wasn't really replying to you man.

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If somebody asks for my opinion about a Microsoft Surface RT, I will continue to say exactly what I said the first time. I'm not going to say "Yeah, it's Windows baby!" and leave it up to the person asking the question to go do his own resarch. He'll be severely disappointed if he shells out his hard-earned cash and then discovers that he can't load standard Windows software on a product manufactured by Microsoft and running Microsoft's OS, especially when Microsoft calls the OS Windows 8 RT.

Something as wrong as that needs to be pointed out, especially when someone asks specifically about the Surface RT.

Yes, if you are technically savvy enough you can get around the app signing and you can compile your own apps to be portable and run on the ARM architecture. Bully for you. But that's not what a typical user is going to do. Especially when the user says up front that he will primarily use his new tablet for social networking and watching sports and TV.

The Surface RT was resoundingly rejected by the marketplace. Microsoft took a $900 million loss on it in the 4th quarter of 2013 because those pieces of shit weren't selling, and Steve Ballmer lost his job shortly after that. That's something else a potential buyer should be aware of.

There's nothing wrong the ARM architecture itself. What was wrong was all of the boneheaded decisions Microsoft made regarding Windows 8 on ARM and Windows 8 in general. You obviously agree, and you recommended avoiding the Surface RT. I just found it puzzling that you defended the product so vehemently that you referred to honest criticism of it as "crap" and "misinformation".

If information is correct and useful, it's neither "crap" nor "misinformation".
You can say whatever you like of course but saying 'it isn't really Windows' is incorrect.

There's no denying that the decision to go ARM vs Atom was a poor one (driven by a perceived need to differentiate the RT from the Pro), but that didn't cost Steve his job alone - he'd been failing for at least a decade. Anyway, this is my biggest gripe about the RT; MS knew the expectations and decided to try to profit off the confusion instead of eliminating it.

All that said, its still a damned good product, which just makes it more embarrassing to screw up. There's really no reason to choose an equivalent iPad or Andriod tablet over the RT other than LTE or some app that may not exist on the RT. Take whatever those tablets do and the RT gives you more. But again, the Dell or something like it is MUCH better.
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