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Originally Posted by tooge
By crap, yes, mainly the saturated fats. But also, what was that grass fertilized with? What antibiotics or hormones did that steer have over it's lifetime? Again, I'm not saying it's for everyone. As my buddy's cardiologist said, "you have the genetics for heart attack risk. Now that you've had one, you need to eat this way." when talking about a vegan lifestyle. There are some people that can eat all the animal protein that they want, and they may have a healthy heart after the sixth decade of life. However, most people simply do not fit into that category. And while there are some in the cardiology community that certainly have done some rethinking regarding saturated fats (hardly a 180), even those would most likely tell you that a diet that consists primarily of animal protein is better than a diet that consists mainly of animal protein, unless that animal protein is fish. Facts are facts. The real killer in our culture is the refined carbs. If you never eat another refined carb, whether it be pasta, most bread, etc., you'd be better off than if you never ate meat again.
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100% agree on the refined carb comment.
To the point about grass fed meats a pasture is usually maintained by the animals that are hanging out on it. Cows eat the grass and then turn it into some of the best fertilizer there is. Grass fed animals also don't require antibiotics. Those come into play because of grain feeding (cows aren't designed to digest grains) and close quarter feedlots.
This also can be turned back on the vegan diets. What's being sprayed on the things in your diet?
I've told this story before in this forum. Following a low fat/low cholesterol diet was slowing ruining me. I finally decided to do the opposite of what my Dr recommended and all of my lipid number improved dramatically along with my body comp and blood pressure. Maybe I'm wrong and on the verge of death but I feel better than I ever have and my diet includes a great deal of fat. I also add a TBSP of pure saturated fat to my coffee every morning (coconut oil).