07-23-2015, 03:19 PM
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Still Got The Blues (For You)
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus
Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Cam Newton, and Ryan Tannehill.
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Pretty sure all of these are invalid. This is as specific as you are capable of getting? Throw some names out with exact yrs, WR groups, OL, something!
copy/paste... because I am not typing this out again either..
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I think it's fair to say that Rivers, in the last 2 years, has been close to elite, if not elite. OL suckage? yes.. can't argue that. WR suckage? Man... I don't think we can say he has bottom 5 WRs. Keenan Allen is a badass, and better than Bowe.. Malcolm Floyd is a very solid vet.. and Eddie Royal is easily better than Avery. Looks like Rivers checked down a ton to Woodhead also in 2013 to get him 76 receptions in. RBs aside though..
Allen, Floyd, and Royal... Were they really a poor trio? I don't think so.
So then, Rivers is eliminated from the short list, and then there were two.
Andrew Luck.. generally referred to as a once in a decade type of QB. Okay, let's just run with it anyway...
First, I'd say that T.Y. Hilton is an incredible WR weapon. He alone pushes the team above bottom 5/[inappropriate/removed] WR corps. Then add Reggie Wayne, Nicks, and Moncrief... and no way can anyone reasonably say his 2014 WRs are bottom 5/[inappropriate/removed]. OL ranked on the downside of middle-of-pack.. but doesn't matter... WRs alone not bottom 5/[inappropriate/removed].
Why no mention of Luck's 2013 year? why bother? his stats were very Alex-like. 60%.. 23 TDs / 9 INTs / 3800 yds / 87 rating... and he still had Hilton and Wayne (half season injury).
So it is very reasonable to take Luck off the list.
Now down to one. Russell Wilson.
This is as close as it gets. RW did not have a good OL for pass pro. bottom 5? not quite that bad.. but it wasn't good. WRs... not good. Bottom 5? yeah okay. I would say yes. So let's put the WRs and OL as bottom 5.. it's close enough.
So we have a real, legit name on the list.
How bout them numbers?
3400 pass yds.. 20 TDs.. 7 INTs... 63%.. 95 rating.. a top defense and RB..
Very similar. Difference is.. RW has elite mobility to extend plays.. and is far more willing to chuck the deep passes. Fair to say.
So even though he has [inappropriate/removed] WRs and OLs.. his rare mobility and brass balls allows him to do what? put up very Alex-like numbers. They do things in a different way.. but with similar production all the same.
So does that mean he should remain on a list that is presented to show him as a QB that functions on a high level despite bottom 5/[inappropriate/removed] OL and WR groups? Apparently so..since he was added onto the list.
So if Smith has similar production and functionality as RW... he must be functioning on a high level despite bottom 5/[inappropriate/removed] OLs and WRs.
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