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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks
.. and you still can't read, it seems. Rodgers had consistent scheme and excellent WRs on his side. Manning has excellent weapons also. Big Ben has had some very good weapons at his disposal as well. Most if not all the QBs you mention are regarded as elite QBs.. being compared to Alex, who no one claims is elite.
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You say I can't read. But gloss over that I said Rodgers won a Super Bowl with his entire WR corps dinged up. He's usually had a bad OL. Manning has had many years with really dinged up WRs and OL. His final years in Indy, his supporting cast was atrocious and his OL was one of the worst in the league. You keep commenting about how great these OLs and WRs are... did you ever stop to think that these WRs are racking up huge seasons because they're playing with an elite QB? How good was Santonio outside of Pittsburgh? Has Wallace looked anything close to a true #1? Did you see how well Denver's dinged up OL played against KC 2 years ago? Because Peyton specifically designed an offense to get rid of the ball lightning fast.
I agree that it's unfair to compare him to the elites. But you asked what QB and the elite / almost elites have been around long enough to do well no matter what the supporting cast.
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As for Brees, he holds the same record as Alex as of late.. 10-12. Why is Brees not overcoming his team deficiencies? Where are the SB rings for these guys lately?
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Umm... Maybe because he's 36? He did win a playoff game just 2 years ago.
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You guys can think what you want of the "49ers" fans here.. you can slurp up whatever random crap guys like Sorter throw out there, but you still can not reasonably debate what it is that I am stating.
You can't seem to grasp the simple conclusion that good/great QBs can overcome a deficient OL or WR group alone... but not combined... and yet you expect Alex to? That's just going full potato.
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Alex Smith had an absolute shit OL and WR group at the end of 2013. Even worse in the Colts playoff game. As I've said over and over, he problem is in Alex's head. He's choosing to manage games instead of attacking. And when he manages games, he makes his OL and WRs worse.