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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks
Sorry you feel that way.
So now it's about the QB rating? At 23, Ben had a pro bowl WR in Hines Ward. He had a middle of the pack OL then, and some solid players named Marvel Smith, Faneca, Hartings, Simmons, and Starks.
Ben put up 2,300 yds passing.. 17 TDs.. 10 turnovers..
Are we really going to give him massive credit for anything other than playing well with a good roster at a young age?
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This is the problem with people like you. You don't know when to just admit that a couple of guys fit the bill. That OL was not good and, as I'd noted in that earlier thread, Hines Ward was all Roethlisberger had at receiver. He led the team with 69 catches. The #2 WR was Randle El, with 35. You don't get to overrate that group when Smith's had Bowe at WR. And, yes, we're going to give the QB some credit for helping his team win the Super Bowl. That 2005 Steelers defense wasn't any kind of all-time group.
Roethlisberger fits the bill, as do Brady and Dilfer from the 2000-2015 SB span. That's just life.