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Originally Posted by tk13
There's nothing myopic about it. I get why he was upset. That doesn't mean he was right. Or that he wasn't trying to make a scene to try and get our pitcher thrown out of the game. Admittedly I try not to fly off the handle every time I feel slighted. People think I do that just to irritate people, but I just don't think it's worth the energy.
I'm assuming Donaldson would understand that no one would hit him with a change up, yes. I do think his 7th inning outburst was trying to get the pitcher tossed. Plenty of guys bark at the umps. He threw a hissy fit and marched out of the box and stopped the game. It's like rewarding a petulant child. There's a difference between being upset and trying to create a scene. He knew what he was doing.
At least we've now admitted that Madson wasn't throwing at him on purpose.
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Nobody has ever once said Madson was throwing at him on purpose. Never a single time. Jays included. You've been arguing with ghosts there.
Now please please please explain to me how Donaldson would have had any idea that the pitch from Volquez up and in was a changeup at the moment the incident occured - a pitch that by its very nature is designed to look like a fastball right up to the moment it reaches the plate. If that pitch is coming at your face and you'd just been hit in your last at bat, you're absolutely going to be convinced it's a fastball. The fact that he spun out of the box and didn't escalate things beyond that actually demonstrated a fair amount of self control. And by the end of the AB when he flipped the bat, of course he's still pissed because he still things Volquez threw a fastball at his chin. Every player in professional baseball would still be pissed there.
A changeup isn't like a slider; there's not that tell-tale dot that can give it away. Everything on that pitch apart from what it does in the last 10 feet is going to look exactly like a fastball and by the time the pitch was 10 feet away, Donaldson had already spun out of there because it looked like heat to him. Yes, you're being myopic if you think Donaldson instigated that or that he didn't have cause for his irritation.