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Originally Posted by Reaper16
Here's the thing:
Cardinals fans have been put into a tricky rhetorical position because of how the whole BFIB thing has begun to backfire in recent years. In any given baseball discussion, a Cardinals fan who insists that they are correct about something or that the opposing party doesn't understand something -- even if that Cardinals fan is absolutely right -- suffers the disadvantage of appearing snooty/on a high horse/etc. It's unfair, but that's where we are: assertions of superiority, including most varieties of message board bluster, feed into the larger Cards fan narrative that they always feel superior to everyone else.
The rhetorical paths to getting around that are narrow and few, but they exist. Hamas and DJ's Left Nut are certainly smart enough to understand the rhetorical position that they are in. But you guys (well, Hamas especially) have chosen to argue in ways that totally support that Cards fan narrative anyway. It doesn't matter that you have level takes and it doesn't matter that you're insulting some posters that exhibit the worst parts of the Royals fanbase -- the Kansas Jayhawks fan with Jayhawks aspirations for the Royals -- because the rhetorical approach you've chosen takes the focus away from whatever those Royals fans are saying and puts it onto you and your status as Cards fans acting in concert with everyone's expectations of Cards fans.
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The first paragraph is true and I don't dislike either of these guys. I still have zero ****s given over the entire incident. To me, it was a Sunday afternoon game with some chin music, a few HBP'S and then some bad acting in the form of ridiculous post game tweets, since deleted.
But, I guess I've watched and played enough baseball to know that's all it was. And we can't expect everybody to feel the same way.
But I also don't care to hear the grandiose, rhapsodic waxings of cards fans who simply must interject their "you're incapable of ...into this thread.