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Old 11-24-2015, 10:45 PM   #1141
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Awesome, love the discussion.

Jaime and Brienne to see Lady Stoneheart. My two biggest complaints about ADWD are that we only got one chapter dealing with Jaime and Brienne, and we got no chapters dealing with Sam at the Citadel (and what's up with Marwyn who left the Citadel to go see Dany?). But in the one Jaime chapter, we see Brienne leading Jamie off to see LSH. I too wonder how that will play out, I sure hope LSH does not kill Jaime, that will piss me off.

Davos to get Rickon from Skagos. Yes, as others posted, most people think Rickon is in Skagos because of Davos' reference to cannibals when he sees the location, and it is not too far from there off the coast of Westeros, and it's a place where a wildling girl might feel comfortable taking Rickon.

The Winterfell killings are subject to a few theories. It seems clear most of the killings were by Mance/Abel's spearwives. But Little Walder Frey's death at the end is different. The spearwife denies it was them to Theon in a way that makes it clear she is admitting to the others ("not one of ours"), so why would she lie about the one? Likely she didn't lie and it was someone else who did the last killing.

But who? Some think it was the mystery guy Theon sees and talks to out in the yard who recognizes Theon. We know that guy wasn't Mance/Abel as GRRM makes a point to have Theon hear Abel singing right when he sees the mystery guy. Blackfish maybe? BenJen Stark (there must be a Stark in Winterfell)? There are many theories on who that guy is and what motives he might have to kill a Frey. But I don't think it was the mystery guy.

My personal favorite theory is that the killer was none other than Big Walder Frey (the older but smaller and slightly less mean one) that killed Little Walder Frey (the bigger, dumber, meaner one). If you read the part where the body is brought in, Big Walder has blood splattered on him and nobody else has blood on them at all because the blood was frozen when he was found. Even if he found him and picked him up, you only get blood "splatter" by being there when the cutting is done.

I don't know about the Bran visions, I'd have to re-read them.

I agree that Dany's position in the books feels more like one of strength that the Dothraki would follow. On the show, she's going to have to show that strength somehow to earn their following. I have read some rumors on how that might happen, but not going to say anything because it was honestly more spoilers than I wanted to know (would be awesome if true though).

Here's a question for you though, what'd you think of the infamous Pink Letter from Ramsey to Jon Snow? That one has me perplexed, and I had a theory on it, but then Stannis was killed on the show, which if it happens in the books, would ruin my theory. So now I'm not sure what to think. Some people don't think Ramsey even wrote it, but it sure sounds like Ramsey to me (though no body part was included with it, so maybe not?).


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Mance is the only one that truly makes sense to me regarding the pink letter. I've watched quite a bit of theory crafting videos for it, and Asha and Stannis are not in a position where that would make sense geographically. Ramsey writes his letters in blood, so I don't think it was Ramsey either. Based on the wording, Mance makes the most sense.

If it IS Mance, you gotta wonder why and you gotta wonder what in the crypts on Winterfell would possess him to go on a suicide mission.
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