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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
17 dudes. 10 or so of them excellent football players
-They spent almost no money to do that. In doing so they cleared up $57 million dollars in cap space in 2009. $57M. You do realize that's enough money to buy you 5 more superstars, right?
-They relied almost exclusively on draft picks. 2 out of 3 years they were picking in the 20's
-So you're advocating saving a few wins here and there? They could have started Huard, McIntosh, Surtain, Wesley, Woods. Kept Wiegmann and T-Rich around another year. So winning 6 games with that geriatric cast would make you feel better than winning 2 and in the process not seeing what we had in guys like Pollard, Page, Flowers, Albert, and Carr? Those guys started WAY earlier than most coaches would allow because we committed to a youth movement
In 2009, he had 17 dudes. He had the #3 pick. He had $57M to spend. He set this team up nicely to make a big move in 2009. And sorry, but that shit doesn't happen if you keep applying band-aids. I don't know how that's at all acceptable. Again, his inability to coach is irrelevant. That's not something he left behind after he left. What matters is the state of the roster.
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Still can't quit Herm huh?
I can go point by point with you.
1.) Lets start with your 10 excellent dudes. They are:
Charles
Bowe
Gonzo - Squirm had nothing to do with this.
Albert
Waters - Squirm had nothing to do with this.
Hali
Carr
Flowers
DJ - Squirm had nothing to do with this
Colquit - Squirm had nothing to do with this.
So Squrmin Herman mother****ing sack of **** Edwards found 6 guys are long term guys and 17 that deserve a roster spot. In three years. In the draft and FA. That is truly horrific. I'm not going to do the math, but if he turned over 49 positions in 3 years and hit on MOTHER****ING 13 (your 17 less DV's 4) and leaving 17 total of players, that is 34% of the positions filled with someone that is not a shitstain. That is a ****ing joke of "roster building." That is why the team was ****ing horrible and won 2 games. If you're going to give all personnel credit to Herm, you gotta admit that in 3 whole years of control he managed to find 1/3 of a team. In 10 years we could have been competitive. Except the first 1/3 would have been old as **** by then YAY HERM! Jesus ****ing Christ.
2.) If he had all that money to spend, why the **** didn't he try to go get somebody in 08 when after 4-12, you have to know there is some heat headed your way. Go get one guy that can help you win. Hell, sell out on getting a decent QB. Get good QB play save your job. Why didn't he? Because he couldn't get one. Why? Horrible.
3.) ****ing horseshit. He had 21 picks and turned over 49 spots. He brought in a shitton of FA. Granted, he didn't spend any money doing it, but he brought a ****ton of them in. Listen, because this is important....
THIS IS WHERE GOOD TEAMS ARE MADE. Good teams have 2 things - 1. QB. 2. Production from cheap players. Look at all the teams that are consistently good. They get production from cheap players. That's how Seattle won. That's how Pitt won. That's how NE won. It doesn't matter where they come from, but there is a cap. You have to get more productivity per dollar than they other guy. Herm did nothing of this. And this is where teams are truly built. In the cheap contracts. Herm Blew that shit hard.
3. I'm not advocating shit. I didn't propose any plan here. What I do know is that you don't have to go ****ing 2-14 to turn shit around. The only team that has done it is Indy. Teams that win 2 games aren't good. They win 2 games because there is no talent. Not because they've been built by some ****ing master. Seattle, San Fran, Arizona, New Orleans have all been turned around without taking a mediocre team and making it horrible. Teams that win 2 games 3 years into a rebuild do so because there is not enough talent to field a team. Which is a ****ing joke. We weren't rebuilding, we were ****ing horrible and it was under Herm's watch.
Nevermind the biggest ****ing hole in your whole argument. You readily admit that he was a horrid coach. That was his ****ing job, man.
The general responsibilities of a HC are pretty much:
1. Hire good staff - HORRIBLE
2. Team demeanor - HORRIBLE - His teams quit 2 straight years.
3. Team discipline/execution - HORRIBLE - Stupid penalties, can't run basic plays
4. Work with staff/gametime calls - HORRIBLE Games were a ****ing joke.
5. Work with personnel department - HORRIBLE but somehow you're saying that 6 dudes that are good mean that he didn't wreck the ****ing program. What a ****ing joke.