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Old 12-14-2015, 12:50 PM   #7
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I didn't say Herm did the better thing. I said that when Dorsey took over, there was an urgency to win now When Herm took over, there was an urgency to tear apart and rebuild. An Alex Smith like trade probably didn't make sense during the Herm years in way it did when Dorsey took over.
So Herm was horrible. Got it. And finding a QB when you don't have one always makes sense.


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Did Herm do an amazing job? No. But wreck is an absurd word. Wreck implies that he left Pioli with a mess. He inherited a mess and left a really good situation for Pioli.
WTF? Really good position? I think there were 42 new guys on the 53 man roster in Pioli's first year. Yay. He had some cap money to work with BUT THERE WAS NO TALENT. That is a ****ing wreck.



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Most GMs can hide blemishes on the roster by making a few big FA moves over 3 years, but also sprinkling in a ton of small moves. While adding Howard, Parker, etc... is brilliant, we also spent a shitload on Vance Walker, Fasano, etc.... So overall, we spent a lot of money on these stopgap small moves in total. I agree that we didn't do great from the FA haul. But it's also unfair to compare him to, say, Pioli who inherited $57M in cap space. $57M allows you a lot of wiggle room to **** up on guys like Winston and Boss and Breaston.

So because Herm had no cap room to work with by 2008, how many of these small moves did we hold off on making that could have hidden a few of our blemishes? Given Carl Peterson's history of trying to put lipstick on a pig (arguably, probably the only reason we signed Huard to that ridiculous contract), I think we're really undermining how radical a direction it was for Herm to say enough with this band-aid bullshit, let's do a true rebuild. Over the many years in Kansas City, it is one of the only times we made the bold move to commit to a rebuild of this size.
I'm not going to go through and find guys they should have signed. But if he were a good personnel man he would have found someone that could play. That's the bottom line. They find guys that can play.

Your problem is you drank the Herm Koolaid about rebuilds. Good teams don't need to suck awful shit to turnover their roster. Even with tremendous cap restrictions, that the Chiefs faced this season, Dorsey still managed to make this team better than last years team.

Teams that go all in and get early picks aren't rebuilding they just blow nutsack. Teams are built through the depth and bottom half of the roster not a couple elite guys. It goes back to finding production for value of the cap. By 2008 Herm had enough cap to go find some dudes that can play. And again, they don't have to be expensive ones. Good talent evaluators find guys that outplay their contract.

He did ****ing none of that. He found a small number of guys that could play and huge number of guys that couldn't. He wrecked the ****ing franchise. He took over a contender and transformed it into a 2 win ****ing team. So what he got a few guys that could play. The team was total ****ing trash. Because he wrecked it.
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