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Well this is an impressively long argument. I actually do think Herm and Kuharich had some real nice hits in the draft. And he somehow won the struggle with Carl to make this team younger. We weren't quite the salary cap disaster that this thread paints it as... but Herm did turn the roster over and make it younger.
Herm probably took over a team in better shape than Vermeil did, even though we didn't draft very well under Vermeil... both him and Carl were basically going for it. Carl should not have survived to see another coach. When Vermeil took over we were really in a bad cap situation... all kinds of dead money from Dan Williams, Carlton Gray, etc. Vermeil even said if he knew what terrible shape this franchise was in, he probably wouldn't have taken the job. Him and Saunders cleaned a lot of that mess out and built a great offense on the cheap. Obviously not the same with the defense. But when Herm took over we were just getting old.
Although I've always said I think both DV and Herm were undercut by Carl... especially by forcing Gunther on both of them. Wasted 5 years trying to relive the glory days, and as soon as both coaches were fired Gunther chucked them both right under the bus. Real nice work.
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