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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
He had one elite season. He'll need more before he's considered elite and not just a guy. I'll be shocked if he ever has a 15+ season again.
What the ****? We argued Berry's value all of 2014. You have a short memory.
So, stats are out the window, which makes zero sense. But if anyone's diminishing a player, it's you, not me.
More ****ing hyperbole and horseshit. The only "negative" thing I've said about Poe is that he won't be paid among the highest defensive lineman in the league if he doesn't have 8+ sacks in 2016.
You're such a ****ing jock sniffer. You should be embarrassed.
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1. Houston had 11 sacks in 11 games in 2013. That's elite production. Over the course of the 2013 and 2014 seasons he played 27 games and recorded 33 sacks. That's a 1.22 sack per game average. Some of the best pass rushers in NFL history average 0.60 sacks per game over the length of their career. Houston's been elite since 2013.
2. We argued Berry's value, yes, which devolved into a "how good is Berry, really?" debate. Sometimes you'd just outright say a safety isn't worth the kind of money he's asking for (totally fine- I even agree with this assessment) and others you'd argue that Berry really wasn't all that good in the first place, which is what I took issue with. I never said he was irreplaceable. You're misremembering.
3. Stats aren't everything. For God's sake, you're arguing that against Poe's impact because he doesn't have a ton of sacks! Bro, do you even football? How many NTs in the ****ing history of the NFL have ever had 8 sacks? Your logic is absurd.