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Old 10-05-2016, 09:13 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 View Post
It's not embarrassing. Vermeil was trying to win games. Herm was trying to rebuild. Herm didn't have any major free agent pickups because he wasn't trying. That's pretty unfair to compare a guy with a blank check and bank full of money and loans to a guy who is $25M in debt and told he has to sell his house, his car, everything to clean up his finances -- when you're forced to sell your house, you're not exactly looking to spend on luxury items.

If Herm was given 5 years and was allowed 13 high priced free agents, we'll see how he would have done. I'm glad he didn't get 5 years. But to blame him for sitting on not just a hill, but a mountain of someone else's debt?

And no, rebuilding isn't easy. A coach has to swallow a lot of pride and accept losses. The easier thing to do would have been to convince Peterson to pay for a few high-priced band-aids. He could have made that a 6-10 team. Sadly, in KC we would look more fondly on a band-aided 7-9 team that ****ed over our future than a 2-14 team that set us up nicely for the future. And in the case of Herm, he had to rebel against his GM to make it happen. You may not agree with what moves he made, but without a shadow of a doubt, he made the right move by demolishing that roster. Any team who made that decision would have had a very bad season for probably 2 or 3 years. I don't know how it's even a debate that blowing up Vermeil's remaining roster was completely the right thing to do.
Herm didn't rebuild shit. The franchise wasn't set up nicely for the future. Sure cap wasn't bad, but theee was no talent. That's not set up. That's not rebuilt. That's driving 100MPH into a tree with a paid for sports car. Sure you don't owe money on the car, but it isn't worth a damn thing.

To go along with your analogy, just because a dude cleans up debt doesn't mean he is making sound financial decisions. Paying 1,200 a month for a refrigerator box is dumb. Yes it's better than $2,500/month house payments. It it's still a shit decision.

Herm took a mediocre to above average team and basically made them an expansion team.

1. No money tied up.
2. No talent
3. No winning culture, nothing to build on.
4. A couple extra picks.

That's an expansion team man. You're the only guy I know that will say, sure. I'd like to be an expansion team.

The Chiefs aren't the only idiots to overpay for old guys. It doesn't necessitate wrecking the ****ing franchise.
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