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Originally Posted by noa

Browns fans being elated that he's gone seems kind of besides the point. He was a first rounder starter to them, so of course they'd be disappointed. But for us, he cost us a 5th rounder and will be a backup, so there's no sense in having huge expectations -- if he hits, that's amazing and all the more reason to love Veach, and if he continues in the direction he's been headed, no huge loss for us.

It's a conditional fifth