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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy
I agree with parts of what you say and in some parts I still think you are selling what RJ did to the movie short. Again...we are talking about 58% of what TFA did. Do you think that was expected or will be accepted? That is a MAJOR drop off. That's just not putting out a movie the fans wanted to see.
With Rogue one doing so well and this film featuring Luke it had a lot of momemtum going in and it carried it for a short term
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It is a major drop, but I really have no idea what was expected. It is still going to make $100s of millions in profits. Again, I just think TFA was an unprecedented (and likely never seen again) event that drew a box office that shouldn't be expected to be approached again--although like I said, with IX being the "final" in this series "forever" that will likely juice the box office somewhat.
I realize that SW has a large group of super-hardcore fans who will go to multiple viewings, but $1B box office isn't built on them--there just aren't enough of them. It's built on more casual fans, those fans bringing their kids, and even curious 1st-timers turning out to see an event movie. And the 3rd SW movie in two years just isn't an event anymore, especially one with no Han or Vader.
You say "with Rogue One doing so well..." but it did worse than TLJ, despite the good reviews. And, it had Darth Vader.
I guess it just bugs me a little that box office is being used as a measure of quality. It really shouldn't. I also don't really get all of the apparent hardcore hate from some for TLJ. People point out the flaws--and I agree with some of them--
but every single SW movie has had flaws, as well as just some really stupid parts. I thought Leia floating was weird/dumb...but not enough to ruin the movie. I don't "get" why Luke died from apparently being exhausted. Had this level of criticism been applied to the 1st trilogy, no one would have seen anything past Return of the Jedi.
Some are saying that that TLJ completely re-writes much of what has come before. I don't really understand that criticism, and I don't buy that the box-office drop is because the movie sucked, because it didn't.