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Old 06-09-2018, 07:46 AM   #1962
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Originally Posted by lewdog View Post
Didn't know that about BABA. I made some nice money swing trading BABA over the last month. Just increased my long term position on the dip today as well. I'm bullish on BABA.

I too just sold my MTUM shares @112 this week. Made a nice profit of about 9% but looking for something else as well. I know the basics about multifactorial funds but can you elaborate on their goals/difference from regular ETFs?

Part of me wants to hedge against a market drop with an inverse play like SDOW.
Last year when the S&P was up about 20%, I think MTUM was up in the 40%'s for me. Multi-factor is just what Vanguard is calling their funds that combine several factors that have been known to outperform over the long term. Momentum, Quality, Value, etc. They have individual versions of each factor that they released at the same time. They aren't market cap weighted so probably pretty volatile. I think it makes sense though as there are less eyeballs looking at small and mid-cap companies. Really though, it comes down to whatever "secret sauce" the Vanguard quants are using to determine the formulas for how to weight the factors. Vanguard lists the funds as part of their active management portfolio so that's a big difference from most index funds. It's not a guy directly picking stocks but guy(s) controlling the model or algorithm that makes decisions.

I'm unsure whether they'll be right and I can't wait 20 years to find out but I have put a small amount of my IRA into VFMF for now. I also, don't have the credentials to get hired as a quant at Renaissance or I'd be in their Medallion fund that returned 70% annually for two decades.
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