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Originally Posted by staylor26
He’s not good, but he doesn’t suck either.
He’s average, which is nice on a rookie contract, but with his height and the amount of flags he draws, he’s not going to be worth what he gets on the open market.
The guys played on an island all year essentially as our #1 corner. He was targeted more than anybody in the league because of that along with the fact that teams threw the ball a ton against us (not to mention we played some damn good offenses and QB’s). It was also his first year playing outside in the NFL. We were asking way too much of him. He’s not that guy. He could’ve been a solid #2 this year with more talent around him.
It’s easy to only remember the bad, but there was more good in there than most of you believe or care to admit. If there weren’t that completion % and QBR when thrown at would be MUCH worse. The way CP talks about him his PFF grade would be terrible. I’ve said it before but if you are constantly getting beat your PFF grade will reflect that. Was he as good as his grade would lead you to believe? No, of course not. It’s somewhere in between where I’ve been pointing at all along.
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Nelson is really the victim of being targeted so much. He had a good stop rate, but because he was targeted so damn much the cameras also caught him giving up catches a lot.
He's an average player that sometimes has a total breakdown for one reason or another. I think they got their value from him at that draft slot and I'd probably leave it at that with him and let him sign a big deal somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501
But that couldn't happen unless the Chiefs cut him. And his open market value is way cheaper than his current contract. So if all the Chiefs have to do is outbid his market value, they still save a lot on the overall contract (if he wants to stay, he'll take a hometown discount). All while saving a shitload in year 1. Houston's at an age where I'm sure he'd rather get a guaranteed contract he can play out until retirement. I'm sure before we hit that point the Chiefs will plan to either renegotiate his current deal or just let him loose. I don't see them paying him full price if they're confident he's in their long term plans.
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His cap figure is where it's at today in large because of restructures into a bonus and kicking his can down the road. Looking at OTC right now, he has a base of 15.2 for 2019 and I think he wouldn't struggle to match that in an open market where all the top edge guys aren't on it.
He would definitely get a figure way North of what his base would be if the Chiefs were to cut his salary enough to have a comfortable cap charge this season. That's without beginning to even factor in, what if he doesn't translate well in the change? A down year and flipping over to the wrong side of 30 would be a crusher when the Chiefs release him next year, which would be a total lock in any situation sans an extension.