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Originally Posted by O.city
If there were literally no one there I wanted, I'd trade the pick to someone else for a current player before I just traded back.
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If there's a guy you'd take at 35, just take him at 29 and get the option.
That's why Staylor goes round and round with me on the Chris Jones thing. I said I thought he was probably a middle of the 2nd round guy because I worried about his motor and pad level (said that pre-draft). But I said after we got absolute shit back in return for the trade down that if their plan was always to take Jones, they'd have been better served staying where they were and just taking him in the 1st to get the 5th year option.
There's just no sensible situation where you find yourself saying "oh, well this guy is worth the 35th pick but he's NOT worth the 29...." The difference there is one of personal preference only and everyone's draft board is different than yours. Brett Veach is not the god of player value - they're all just haggling in the margins at that point. Just take the guy and get your 5th year. Don't try to tell me that your prospectin' skills are so refined, so precise and so fine tuned that you KNOW a guy taken at 29 is a reach but by 35 he's a good guy to get. That's just silly and doesn't pass a basic sniff test.
And besides, did everyone already forget about ol' Spithood Siavii? Good ol' King Karl is sitting there at 30 with an eye on Igor Olshanski. He is dead certain he'll still be there a few picks later and gets exactly the same return that EVERYONE gets at the back of the 1st to trade down a few spots - a 4th and a 6th (it's always a 4th and a 6th). Well more accurately, a 4th in that draft and a 5th in the following draft; whatever, same difference.
Igor Olshansky goes one pick before us and we take that ****ing mongoloid reerun Junior Siavii who never starts a game for us. And with our glorious 4th rounder and next years 5th we get Samie friggen Parker and Alfonso Hodge. I'm not sure Hodge even made the team out of camp and Parker...well what needs be said about Samie Parker?
Olshansky went on to have a damn nice, long productive career.
Trading out of the 1st is almost invariably a poor decision.