Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck
too little in return? See this is what I'm talking about. You're assuming there was more to be had in the Peters, Ford, or Houston moves. The reality is that there just wasn't. It takes two to negotiate. You're assuming because YOU valued those players highly that the rest of the league did too. The reality is otherwise. But you're emotionally invested in it; they're not.
We got a 2 and a 4 for Peters. If we decided that return was 'not enough' we'd have kept him another year and he walks for a 3.
We got what we could for Ford. You really think anyone else didn't see the flaws we did? You're assuming YOU know what the market is. You don't.
Houston-everyone knew we weren't paying him #22 million. What leverage do you have to negotiate? None. Everyone knew they could just wait and sign him after he was cut. But somehow we should've gotten more!
Berry-nobody's taking that shitshow on. somehow though, DAMIT VEACH!
I've already outlined how Watkins deal looks huge but isn't really what it looks like. Structure and planning is everything.
Your assumption is that YOU know what the market should be. You have no idea what conversations and negotiations are going on between NFL GM's.
We traded the opportunity to acquire essentially one second round talent player this year, and one essentially third round talent player next year to get what is certainly an excellent proven player right now. (oh, and we got an extra 8 slots in this year's third round, too. ) While we're in Mahomes' rookie window. You think that's too much? You're wrong. There were other teams interested. It's what we had to give. Somehow you think there were better deals, but you have no knowledge of any such thing. You're judging shit you have no basis for judging.
I'm done talking to you. It's like arguing with a wall.
|
OK, so because we don't know what the market bears veach should be totally without reproach.
We have MULTIPLE deals where cp found the comp to be headscratching or underwhelming. Not critical of the deal, just underwhelmed with what we negotiated. We can either try to individually either justify or in some cases make excuses for each of multiple bad deals. I'm just pointing to a pattern.