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Old 05-20-2019, 03:23 PM   #5445
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I think he got exactly what he wanted.

I just hoped for a better path to get there than the seemingly broken husk ready to wander the forest.

I'm serious - literally the only thing they needed to do with him was simply have him own his actions and stand behind them. Then 'give up his crown to save his people' as Sam had said in the crypts.

It would've been a perfect outcome for him and for some very strange reason, they dodged it.

I really think the answer is somewhere buried in a message GRRM is trying to send in the story but I'm not sure what the message is. It almost has to have something to do with love and it's impact on people - a theme that is EVERYWHERE throughout this story when you start to look for it - but I haven't been able to suss it out yet or figure out why that message would be diminished through having him leave on his own terms.

Is Martin such a dour sonofabitch that he wants us to believe that ultimately love destroys anyone it infects? Cersei, Jaime, Grey Worm, Jon, Dany, Brienne, even Tyrion (with Shay and his family) -- all of them have situations where we can say that love fundamentally weakened or destroyed them. Did we need to rub salt in the wound by having it wreck Jon as well? Seems like the show thinks so. And what about Stannis - who chose duty (in his eyes) over love and STILL lost everything?

Or was it just a poor adaptation of Martin's outline from a couple of shoddy storytellers? Seems a simpler solution...
This is a fair point. I can admit that, for me, my disappointment is entirely personal. I wouldn't even argue that where they ended up with his story was bad; it's just not what I wanted.

I think I had just fallen into believing that he was the rightful king. He never wanted to be Lord Commander but did so anyway out of necessity. He never wanted to be King in the North but did so out of necessity.. I guess I had convinced myself something similar would happen with the Iron Throne.
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