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Originally Posted by tatorhog
If you could get a couple of Jordans, one in 10 and another in 9 (yeah right) and hit on the checklist, Moore, Wilkins, and maybe a low pop scrub, you'll be even. Then if you hit a Cap sticker in high grade and the Jordan as well, you'll be in the green...but man that's a long long long shot. going 9's across the board would be tough. A friend of mine back in the day bought a case (this was before PSA came into play. He also bought up all the 84 Star jordans he could. I was with him when he busted one box and the quality just wasn't there. the box looked good, but the centering and overall quality was meh. The unopened and unknown is the value in that material now.
yeah, f___ PWCC. I had a couple dealings with him on lesser stuff in the past where I thought he was kind of an ass. Then a couple years later he gets blown up for trimming and actually uses some line like "photos aren't evidence". I think he's closely tied to another guy I had dealt with in the past who supposedly warehoused a lot of his collection in the same town. That guy wasn't much better IMO. He's one of the chosen few to have his collection name printed on the label, but it doesn't save him from being dick as well.
I figured as long as the card fills the holder, its a heck of a lot closer to being legit than one that rattles around.
even with the PWCC news, Heritage and other big houses are hitting big numbers, so either it hasn't gotten around or some people just don't care. net54 I think, had a really interesting thread on a Brady rookie that was proven to be trimmed years ago. It was a serialed card that suddenly has less border (some of his foot was missing in the before/after shots of it) and made its way into a nice holder with less foot. Its not just PWCC sadly, that crap has been going on forever and some people simply buy the case and not the card. Hell, even the Holy Grail Wagner has its own mystery of being hand cut from an old sheet.
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I thought that was common knowledge in the hobby? I don't do old tobacco cards at all, but it seems like I read somewhere that PSA acknowledged that it was sheet cut, but it was such a rare example, that they let it slide (or something to that effect)
Of course, I could be remembering that all wrong, but it seems like that's what I read.