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Originally Posted by Over Yonder
I thought that was common knowledge in the hobby? I don't do old tobacco cards at all, but it seems like I read somewhere that PSA acknowledged that it was sheet cut, but it was such a rare example, that they let it slide (or something to that effect)
Of course, I could be remembering that all wrong, but it seems like that's what I read.
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I do have some old tobacco cards, but nothing of any real importance. I have some HOFers in the psa 3-5 range. Mostly because they really are cool cards, and for me, in that 3-5 range if the card is centered, then its grade is brought down usually by corners and edges, which if symmetrical still presents nice. I also like the to have a little toning to them too, then its a little better chance they haven't been washed, etc.
The Wagner stuff may be more common than I realize. There are some really old "Xeroxed" clippings and whatnot that have been circulated over the years that kind of retell the story. Its been a long time since I've really thought about any of it (I figure if a guy has the means to own a MLB team, he isn't in much of a hurry to sell that card to me for what I could pay for it, which would be its 1912 price).
I guess as I typed this I did a quick search and it looks like Mastro fessed up to it a few years ago. That's news to me. I had heard mixed stuff about him, and there was the posted research into why people believed so strongly he had altered the card that I vaguely remembered. And with a billionaire owning it now, I don't see any grading company having the power to recall and reslab it as auth-altered. I suppose the jumbo Wagner could have been another victim of his had he gotten ahold of it. For me, with it being oversized and even a little ugly, if I were in that level of collecting, I would have to say that would be THE card now with the new-to-me info about the McNall Wagner.