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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
hes only got 2 arb years left right? Then he hits FA? 2 years of him for 6 years of Carlson plus more players you’d rather not give up.
Thor would make us a legit contender for sure but I’d rather wait till Carlson and Gorman are here to sell the future for now trades. We are in 1st place and playing well but, no one in this thread thinks we are ready to beat LA in a playoff series. DJ, you think Thor allows us to beat LA in a 7 game series?
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You're not getting Thor because of this season. If that's what you're worried about, you go after Bumgarner.
You get Thor if you're confident you can extend him this off-season and un**** him; get him off the regression train somehow. I'm not sure you can have him 'postseason ready' this season, there is just too much shit that's gone wrong there over the last 18 months or so. He's really a mess.
But Syndergaard, when he's right, is capable of being the best pitcher in baseball. His raw stuff hasn't backed up from where it was when he was a 23 yr old in 2016 and was actually making pitches; I think he's physically sound. I just think he's lost all feel for his slider (which is damn near impossible; sliders are easy pitches to maintain) and I think he's gotten frustrated by the situation in NYM and is kinda jaking it. Or losing focus.
We have given untold numbers of pitchers shit for being 'soft' on the Cardinals, but most of them just lack the necessary arsenal to be as consistently dominant as people expect. Syndergaard, OTOH, has the arsenal to wipe out anyone. He just has a temper or a short attention span because there are waaaaaaaaay too many times he'll have just a little stumble and start throwing cockshots after looking great the first time or two through the order.
He may be an actual headcase. But if you get that ironed out, you have the chance to acquire the first true ace this franchise has had since Carpenter and he'd be 26 years old.
Yeah, that's worth Carlson. And let's not forget - I was WAY ahead of everyone else on Carlson. Y'all go digging through the archives and I've been singing his praises (and Flaherty's) since we drafted 'em. Love that kid. But Reyes is toast and Flaherty's ideally situated as a #2. If you can have a long-term top of your rotation built around Thor/Flaherty...that's a puncher's chance every year.