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kccrow · 09-08-2019, 12:29 AM

Back to the OP and piggybacking on this discussion with Buehler... I think if I'm going to trade for a CB of value, it's going to be an offer to a team like Buffalo for Tre'Davious White. He has 3 years left on his rookie deal if you pick up his 5th-year option. Trading resources for a guy like Peterson doesn't make a ton of sense to me in terms of ROI. You're going to see his sharp decline coming soon. You're just dumping more money right now into guys instead of spreading your cash outlays.

The only issue with trading with a team like Buffalo is they aren't going to give you White in some combination trade for Jones since they drafted Oliver this year, signed Star Lotulelei and drafted Williams a year ago. They are good at DT. Buffalo, in particular, has a shortage of CBs as well. You'd likely be sending them a player like Fuller plus picks. Even then, its incredibly hard to get your hands on young, ascending CBs.

Someone mentioned William Jackson III. He makes sense in that you'd get this year for cheap and next year on his option, but then you have to pay him. You're still getting a couple discounted seasons. That said, he's their top CB and they dont' have anything on the burner behind him, much like Buffalo.

That said, there is credence to going the top CB route. There has been an uptrend to changing the philosophy in the NFL and Bill Belichick is at the absolute forefront of that. Teams, especially NE, are starting to focus on stopping the pass first and taking away your best receiver. They are starting to run Mint fronts to compensate against the run game where it's basically a 4 down front in a 3 down mask, the ends in the B gaps, the nose taking an A gap, and the MLB taking the other A gap. You force teams to throw to secondary receivers and bounce runners to the boundary where all your speed players are. He put resources into getting Gilmore, who is in the conversation for the league's top corner, and keeping his good safeties. He's added pieces there and let defensive lineman become interchangeable pieces. He has $45.3 million into the secondary, a $4.53m per unit cost that is 24.2% of their cap spend. He has $23.6m into linebackers, with $3.94m per unit and 12.6% of their cap spend, and he has $16.38m into defensive lineman with $2.05 per unit and 8.7% of their cap spend. (Buehler, he has 52.0% of his cap spend to offense btw so he is teetering that way right now).

09-08-2019, 12:29 AM	#28
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1320000	Back to the OP and piggybacking on this discussion with Buehler... I think if I'm going to trade for a CB of value, it's going to be an offer to a team like Buffalo for Tre'Davious White. He has 3 years left on his rookie deal if you pick up his 5th-year option. Trading resources for a guy like Peterson doesn't make a ton of sense to me in terms of ROI. You're going to see his sharp decline coming soon. You're just dumping more money right now into guys instead of spreading your cash outlays. The only issue with trading with a team like Buffalo is they aren't going to give you White in some combination trade for Jones since they drafted Oliver this year, signed Star Lotulelei and drafted Williams a year ago. They are good at DT. Buffalo, in particular, has a shortage of CBs as well. You'd likely be sending them a player like Fuller plus picks. Even then, its incredibly hard to get your hands on young, ascending CBs. Someone mentioned William Jackson III. He makes sense in that you'd get this year for cheap and next year on his option, but then you have to pay him. You're still getting a couple discounted seasons. That said, he's their top CB and they dont' have anything on the burner behind him, much like Buffalo. That said, there is credence to going the top CB route. There has been an uptrend to changing the philosophy in the NFL and Bill Belichick is at the absolute forefront of that. Teams, especially NE, are starting to focus on stopping the pass first and taking away your best receiver. They are starting to run Mint fronts to compensate against the run game where it's basically a 4 down front in a 3 down mask, the ends in the B gaps, the nose taking an A gap, and the MLB taking the other A gap. You force teams to throw to secondary receivers and bounce runners to the boundary where all your speed players are. He put resources into getting Gilmore, who is in the conversation for the league's top corner, and keeping his good safeties. He's added pieces there and let defensive lineman become interchangeable pieces. He has $45.3 million into the secondary, a $4.53m per unit cost that is 24.2% of their cap spend. He has $23.6m into linebackers, with $3.94m per unit and 12.6% of their cap spend, and he has $16.38m into defensive lineman with $2.05 per unit and 8.7% of their cap spend. (Buehler, he has 52.0% of his cap spend to offense btw so he is teetering that way right now).
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