[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

The Browns drafted a potentially very good young QB, they drafted and signed good players on both sides of the ball, and then added a superstar WR in OBJ.

But the Browns gotta Browns, and they did the most Browns thing ever by hiring a HC who had never even spent an entire season as a coordinator. Kitchens was the absolute worst choice, and that's exactly why the Browns hired him. Instead of making a football decision, a decision that took the big picture of what they were trying to build into consideration, they somehow let themselves be bullied by a rookie QB, and chose a HC that they thought would make him happy.

I am convinced that Paul Brown must have made a deal with the devil, somehow dooming all professional football teams from Ohio. But the city of Cleveland kinda deserves it. They like to think they have great fans, but those great fans couldn't get a vote passed for a new stadium. The Browns played in the worst stadium in the NFL, the Mistake by the Lake, and they basically forced their team to move.

Then their former team goes on to win a couple of Super Bowls in a new city. What a kick in the nuts. If the fans had worked to get the new stadium approved, those Championships would belong to Cleveland. Instead, they only approve a new stadium after they force their beloved team out of the city.

If they don't fire Kitchens after this season, they deserve to keep losing. But, this is also the Browns we are talking about, and they didn't fire Hue Jackson when his record was something like 1-31.



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It's too funny for words. This whole spiral started because Dee haslem was friends with the Jacksons and refused to fire hue Jackson last year. That put Freddie into a temp job where he earned players trust (same way Romeo did after haley was fired in kc). And they were forced to promote Gregg Williams. They could have walked into this offseason with a clean slate and kept Gregg Williams as DC.