[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am starting to come around to this idea as well. 4-6 weeks then reopen everything and do the best we can, maybe quarantine people 60\65 or older.

Otherwise there won't be much of a country left. Leadership from the top down has completely failed us.

From another forum. Apparently this is what they're doing on Beijing. Sobering as hell.

in china, all packages are sprayed down before they come into the building, when people enter their apartments they go through a routine

people don't order food very much since there were reports of asymptomatic chefs infecting dozens - nearly everything is delivered and sprayed/washed and prepared at home - this is a big deal, chinese people eat out so frequently many don't even know how to make basic food at home - lots of smaller apartments don't even have kitchens or if they do it's quite limited with a single plugin electric stovetop, if you go anywhere in China, about 2/3 of all storefronts are restaurants, if you're in a city there are dozens of restaurants you can go to without leaving your own block - this is crippling small businesses and the economy and they wouldn't do that casually


process of coming back to apartment:

open door, spray all my items and put them inside

if it's in packaging, i remove the packaging and leave in hallway to take to trash next time so there's less chance of bringing in covid - this is a building where normally management would knock on my door and yell at me for leaving trash in the hallway but nobody cares about that now

then i spray down my gloved hands and spray bottle and switch to the disinfectant bottle to spray the soles of my shoes (don't want to use other bottle on shoes because it has bleach)

step inside, slide feet out of shoes, spray outside doornob with bleach spray and close door

inspect gloves as I take them off, if in good condition i put them in a bin to reuse, if in bad condition i drop them outside door in hallway

remove mask and sunglasses, spray them and leave mask to dry

take glasses with me and put in sink and wash my hands thoroughly with soap twice, then rinse off any remaining spray on glasses lenses

then i'm done

a nightmare and hassle at first but now it's second nature

coming into the building there's someone to check my temp and if he doesn't recognize me (they all do since i'm 6'2" & white) then they ask my corona card that proves i live in the building (to prevent residents who were living in another province to register that they've moved to this building and making tracking disease spread easier - mostly just finding people who were in Hubei and testing them) - a few weeks back a girl was screaming at them because she came back from visiting her family during the beginning of the lockdown and thus didn't have the card and she had to get tested first or something - she's here now but obviously was unhappy being made to wait in the lobby until they sorted it out

price you pay to live though - didn't leave china earlier because i was in the "lol hysteria" camp and not leaving now because I'm genuinely frightened because I know the US will never take these necessary steps