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Old 04-06-2020, 11:51 AM   #17326
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The models of bed capacity are based upon occupancy only. Bed capacity isn't functional capacity where people are receiving adequate care. Hospitals also plan for surge scenarios (mass casualty incidents, etc.) to ensure that there is always true flex built into the system to sustain such events.

Regarding healthcare workers: 14 percent of those infected in Spain as of last week were healthcare professionals, around 3000 of the reported cases in China were in healthcare, and at least 200 in NYC were sick (from a NYT article on 3/30). That's a lot of infections, and moving it up to true 100% capacity would have made only increased the probability of additional infections further.
We're gonna hit at/near 100% capacity in NYC. I never said the point was to stay at 100% capacity - I said the point was to eventually bump right against it. Like I said - apex the turn. If your worst day climbs you right to the brink of your capacity, you've done it damn near perfectly.

And do you really feel qualified to speak to what steps/processes/policies Spain undertook before declaring them remotely useful as a comparison? And FFS...China again. Why do we care about anything China is saying?

My point regarding healthcare workers in NYC is that they are going to get sick anyway. They're surrounded by it - but how many of those got it BECAUSE of a PPE shortage? How many of them didn't just take a mask off right? Or get it in the subway? Or at home? Or would've gotten it with brand new equipment because the stuff isn't 100% effective. Again, there's little evidence right now that the one place we can point to as ground zero has experience a massive shock to their healthcare system BECAUSE of an equipment shortage. Or even that time would ultimately have solved said shortage because again - we have equipment RIGHT NOW that we just aren't getting to them (hurray bureaucracy!).
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