['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The irony is the people that want to scream this isn't a black and white thing want to lecture you for not having a black and white take on things like masks. I have read a few articles throughout all of this but I will go back to the one I posted yesterday about masks. Hamas or Monticore can speak to the actual measurements I guess.

It takes 1,000 units of the virus for a person to become infectous

And infected person expels approximately 900 units per minute from normal speaking and breathing

Masks prevent possibly up to 50% of the particles which now say takes you 900 units in 1 minute to 900 units in 2 minutes

Masks do not necessarily nor are they being alleged to prevent you from inhaling these particles. They are to prevent you from spreading not you from getting

So let's just apply some actual real world scenarios

Walking past an infected person in the grocery store will not expose you long enough to become infected as you would have to be exposed to them for over 1 minute of they are unmasked

Talking to a masked person, whether you have a mask on or not, inside of 1m of space will give you about just over 2 minutes before you start becoming infected

So as they said, the masks are not doing much good for people say in retail and you are not exposing yourself to anyone else long enough say walking through the grocery store isle to need a mask.

This is the gray area that some people both love and hate. The best thing they seem to have right now is stay 6ft away. Retail establishments need to use things like the shields and such at check out. If you have symptoms then you should be wearing a mask even though your chance of infecting someone is very minimal unless you spend several minutes talking to them within 3 ft.

So basically as many experts have said, masks are good for protecting you from someone coughing and sneezing on you and little else.

Beta-blockers, potassium-sparing diuretics, and ACE-Inhibitors all have a demonstrable mortality benefit in patients with heart failure whose ejection fraction is <40%. That doesn't mean that they reduce the risk of death to 0, and it doesn't mean that their use represents a gray area. There is a clear benefit: the people who take them are less likely to die than matched controls that don't.

Notice that mitigation strategies are trying to get the R0 as low as possible. They aren't designed with a goal to get it to 0.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the goal is.